Nessie's epic fail on Belzec

[Keen]

Recently, my partner Nessie and I joined forces and accepted Stubbles challenge to show him EXACTLY where the 2.145 million jews who were transited to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II were resettled: https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=353

Nessie and I believe that the only way to put an end to the resettlement debate is to simply show people the conclusive archaeological / forensic / scientific PROOF that those 2.145 million jews are buried in 100 "huge mass graves" at those 5 sites.

Our belief is as simple as it gets: We simply prove that what has been alleged to have been proven about the huge mass graves has actually been proven. If 2.145 million jews really are buried in 100 "huge mass graves" at those 5 sites, then it is impossible for them to have been transited elsewhere. A retarded 4th grader could figure out the simplicity of our position. After all, if we can't prove that those jews are buried where the orthodox holocaust story says they are bureid, then we don't have a leg to stand on in the resettlement debate.

With that said, and my partner Nessie's allegation that:

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.

Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

I can point to them in the ground.

we set out to shove the truth about the 600,000 jews that we thought were buried in 33 "huge mass graves" at Belzec down Subble's throat.

To say that Nessie failed misserably is an understatement. "Failed utterly" is more like it.

So in the spirit of truth and honesty, Nessie and I admit that those 600,000 jews have never been proven to have been buried in those 33 alleged "huge mass graves" at Belzec. (We couldn't even prove that so-much-as 6 jews are buried in any one of the 33 alleged "huge masss graves"" of Belzec.)

So, our new position is that it has been CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN via archaeological / forensic / scientific methods, that 1.545 million jews are buried in 67 huge mass graves at Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II.

I'm sure I speak for my partner Nessie when I say that we are sorry for making unsubstantiated allegations about those 600,000 jews being "proven" to be buried at Belzec and we admit then that they must have been resettled elsewhere.

If anyone believes that Nessie and I missed something about the "huge mass graves" of Belzec, they are more than welcome to post their proof in this thread.

[Stubble]

There's still Chelmno, chin up, it's not all lost...



You two, are still committed to that, right?

[Keen]

Stubble:

There's still Chelmno, chin up, it's not all lost... You two, are still committed to that, right?

Nessie and I would never run from a challenge, especially one from you!

[Nessie]

Recently, my partner Nessie and I joined forces and accepted Stubbles challenge to show him EXACTLY where the 2.145 million jews who were transited to Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II were resettled: https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=353

Resettled, not buried.

"resettle
/ˌriːˈsɛtl/
verb
verb: resettle; 3rd person present: resettles; past tense: resettled; past participle: resettled; gerund or present participle: resettling
settle or cause to settle in a different place.
"they offered to resettle 300,000 refugees""

Nessie and I believe that the only way to put an end to the resettlement debate is to simply show people the conclusive archaeological / forensic / scientific PROOF that those 2.145 million jews are buried in 100 "huge mass graves" at those 5 sites.

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You have changed the definition of resettlement, to burial. Due to your dishonesty, lying that you have evidence of resettlement and controlling behaviour, where you demand I follow tasks set by you, this supposed partnership is ended. I will not work with you. I gave you a chance and you blew it.

[Keen]

You have changed the definition of resettlement

No I didn't:

resettle
Also found in: Thesaurus, Encyclopedia.
resettle (riːˈsɛtəl)
vb
to settle or cause to settle in a new or different place

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/resettle

Nessie, 600,000 jews were resettled in Belzec - In 33 individual settlements. You and I both know that. Our goal is to shove that truth down the deniers throats and refute the following statement of fact (rebuttable presumption) which can currently be LEGALLY established as fact in a U.S. court:

It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the one hundred graves / cremation pits that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY FIVE PEOPLE.

Nessie, this should be the easiest thing in the world to do. (We even have a map showing where the jews were settled for gods sake.) 600,000 divided by 33 = 18,182. So we know, with 100% certainty, that the average size of each of Belzec's 33 settlements contains over 18 thousand resettled jews. However, to date, we haven't proven that so-much-as one individual resettlement holds so-much-as 6. We have to change this embarassing fact. If we don't, our paper will never be accepted. And I get the feeling that we are currently the laughing stocks of CODOH, and frankly, I find this situation embarrassing.

So Nessie, we have to prove that it has been proven that at least one of the 33 individual settlements of Belzec currently holds at least 18,000 jews or our numbers simply don't add up. Personally, I think we should just quietly forget about Belzec and concentrate on Chelmno at the moment. But I'm sure that even you will admit that if we can't prove resettlement at Belzec, then our position becomes embarassingly untenable.

[Keen]

this supposed partnership is ended

No it hasn't Nessie. I'll never leave you! We are BFF!!!

[Nessie]

You have changed the definition of resettlement

No I didn't:

resettle
Also found in: Thesaurus, Encyclopedia.
resettle (riːˈsɛtəl)
vb
to settle or cause to settle in a new or different place

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/resettle

Nessie, 600,000 jews were resettled in Belzec - In 33 individual settlements.

Show me an example, from any dictionary, of resettlement referring to being buried in a grave, or a settlement meaning a grave.

[Keen]

Show me an example, from any dictionary, of resettlement referring to being buried in a grave, or a settlement meaning a grave.

We are not talking about graves here Nessie, we are talking about resettlement and your epic failure on Belzec.

Nessie, did the Germans transit 600,000 jews to Belzec - Yes. - or - No - ??

[Nessie]

Show me an example, from any dictionary, of resettlement referring to being buried in a grave, or a settlement meaning a grave.

We are not talking about graves here Nessie, we are talking about resettlement and your epic failure on Belzec.

Nessie, did the Germans transit 600,000 jews to Belzec - Yes. - or - No - ??

You are lying that you are not talking about graves and I am not going to do your bidding and answer questions, when you refuse to answer any of mine, you abuse me, and lie to me.

[Keen]

you abuse me

That's because you're my bitch Nessie.

But I would never lie to you, anymore than you would lie to the members of this forum.

Now Nessie, let's start from the beging.

Is it - True. - or - False. - that the Germans transited 600,000 jews to Belzec - ??

[Keen]

I am not going to do your bidding... I gave you a chance and you blew it.

No Nessie, you blew it. Just look at the title of this thread.

And why would you be afraid of defending your position?

This is a debate forum after all, isn't it?

Nessie, would you tell us what this is:

[Keen]

I am not going to do your bidding and answer questions, when you refuse to answer any of mine

What are you talking about?

In every email that you've ever sent me you've asked me numerous questions, and I've answered every one of them.

And speaking of emails, I agree with your suggestion in the last one you sent me. Here's our final draft:

#1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The USHMM alleges that 600,000 jews were killed in Belzec - ??

#2 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; It is alleged in orthodox histriography that the remains of the jews who were killed in Belzec currently lie in 33 mass graves within the boundary of the camp - ??

#3 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 33 alleged mass graves in question, contains the remains of less than 5 people - ??

#4 - If your answer to question #3 was - False. - then; list all of the graves that have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at Belzec, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology - that contains the remains of more than 5 people.

Now let's see you fulfill your promise and answer the questions.

[Nessie]

I have never emailed Keen, he is lying.

[Keen]

I have never emailed Keen, he is lying.

Stop lying Nessie and answer the questions that you promised in your email that you would answer.

#1 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The USHMM alleges that 600,000 jews were killed in Belzec - ??

#2 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; It is alleged in orthodox histriography that the remains of the jews who were killed in Belzec currently lie in 33 mass graves within the boundary of the camp - ??

#3 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; The largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 33 alleged mass graves in question, contains the remains of less than 5 people - ??

#4 - If your answer to question #3 was - False. - then; list all of the graves that have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at Belzec, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology - that contains the remains of more than 5 people.

Now let's see you fulfill your promise and answer the questions.

(BTW Nessie, do you know how easy it would be for me to prove, with 100% certainty, that you have been emailing me?)

[Nessie]

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(BTW Nessie, do you know how easy it would be for me to prove, with 100% certainty, that you have been emailing me?)

Go on and produce your evidence.