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Jankiel Wiernik

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Is there any proof this guy ever actually worked at treblinka II?

I was looking at one of his earlier maps made with other survivors, and the question occurred to me. Then I got in to looking at some of the background surrounding him.

It has become my opinion that he never worked at treblinka II and was a propagandist/spy turned 'witness'.
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Stubble wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:48 pm Is there any proof this guy ever actually worked at treblinka II?

I was looking at one of his earlier maps made with other survivors, and the question occurred to me. Then I got in to looking at some of the background surrounding him.

It has become my opinion that he never worked at treblinka II and was a propagandist/spy turned 'witness'.
He was a spy. It appears from the first map given by him, he is describing the Malkinia camp; here is the aerial view of that camp compared with Wierniks first map. He of course altered the future maps to align with the morphing of the stories.
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Was Eli Wiesel also inserted as a propagandist/spy turned witness?

Who was that guy actually ? Apparently he wasn't Lazaar Wiesel.

https://archive.org/details/gruner-niko ... 4/mode/1up
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If this is the same person (and time and place align), Wiernik was also busy in the 1930s writing subversive materials out of a Jewish charity organization.

Gazeta Powszechna from August 17, 1935 has an article titled "Communist Party Headquarters Under Lock and Key: 66 Subversives Arrested in Warsaw."

A secret printing press was discovered underneath the shop of a shoemaker named Rosenberg.
In total, over 100 searches were carried out, 66 people were arrested, and a huge amount of a huge amount of propaganda materials, leaflets, brochures and books in Russian, Polish, French, English and Yiddish, and a large amount of correspondence and proclamations from the central committee were also taken for the files. Lists, notes, receipts and account books were also found. Copiers, printing equipment, office supplies and three typewriters were also found, which were used to make wax copies for copiers and carbon copies. ...

A search was conducted at the Jewish charity institution ‘Dom Chleba’ (13 Elektoralna Street) and two typewriters were found on which Jankiel Wiernik, an employee of the ‘innocent’ Dom Chleba, wrote proclamations on carbon paper, which were read during the investigation.

Among the 66 arrested are prominent communists who had been conducting subversive work within the central communist party authorities for a long time.
Gazeta Polska has more info on the investigation from August 8, 1935.
The communist authorities in the capital uncovered a perfectly secret communist printing house, obviously run by Jews. It printed all the communist periodicals, such as "Czerwony Sztandar," "Nowy Przegląd," etc., as well as brochures, leaflets, and proclamations.
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Subversive literature was being smuggled out en masse across the country.
I didn't want to derail the Treblinka plagiarism thread, but these OCR Polish newspaper archives are a goldmine.
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Absolutely incredible Sir, well done!
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Re: Jankiel Wiernik

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pilgrimofdark wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:29 am If this is the same person (and time and place align), Wiernik was also busy in the 1930s writing subversive materials out of a Jewish charity organization.
Fascinating. In trying out the hypothesis that Wiernik was never sent to Treblinka, my line of thought was that perhaps he had actually been living in Warsaw. Perhaps he had been working with the resistance for some years. Perhaps he had even written some of those early, anonymous reports out of Treblinka, which would explain why he felt comfortable plagiarizing them.

However, that hypothesis would be at odds with Wiernik's claim to be a skilled carpenter. It would also contradict his Wikipedia page, which makes very clear that he was not a writer.
He was persuaded in late 1943 to write A Year in Treblinka, in spite of his initial reluctance (Wiernik had little education and was not a skilled writer).
Your finding changes that dramatically. Wiernik already was a writer, involved with Jewish communists, and working in Warsaw, all before the war kicked off.
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