https://codoh.com/library/document/the- ... ous-views/
Codoh promoting Misesian economics and race egalitarianism was not on my 2025 bingo card. Does anybody have a QRD on this turn of events?
What a strange and seemingly out of place artice
Re: What a strange and seemingly out of place artice
This is a submission from Jorge. He is with the Mises Institute and there has been some cross pollination with CODOH and The Mises institute of late.
The author and Germar have been 'making the circuit' doing a series of interviews together. They sat down for a 5 or 6 hour person to person, then did an interview with Leuchter, and interview with Unz etc.
Jorge felt his perspective merited an article and submitted it to 'Inconvenient History' and it went to print.
I've considered penning a rebuttal centering on the rapid economic recovery and the fact that Germany spent 12 years not a slave, but, I'm not sure the article merits a retort as it is so utterly harmless and patently incorrect in observation. After all, the proper response to bad speech should always be better speech, unless in this case, the speech is so bad as to not stand on it's own, of course.
I will say I was surprised, but I wasn't shocked.
Personally I take this article and point to it as further proof that we should focus on 'The Holocaust' and not delve into other areas. They ultimately will only represent a wedge.
I don't share economic opinions broadly with Jorge, but, I also don't share opinions on race and nation with Dean.
We as revisionists are a rich tapestry of different ideas, political, economic, biological, and are not a monolith, and that's ok. Some of the earliest revisionists are so very far apart from me on the social and political spectrum that the only place where we agree is that 'The Holocaust' is in need of historical revision as it does not comport with reality.
/shrug
Personally I don't think this man;
Was
1) Inherently The Embodiment of Evil
2) Stupid
But, that's my opinion. Perhaps I'm wrong and Time Magazine put him on the cover as some kind of joke.
The author and Germar have been 'making the circuit' doing a series of interviews together. They sat down for a 5 or 6 hour person to person, then did an interview with Leuchter, and interview with Unz etc.
Jorge felt his perspective merited an article and submitted it to 'Inconvenient History' and it went to print.
I've considered penning a rebuttal centering on the rapid economic recovery and the fact that Germany spent 12 years not a slave, but, I'm not sure the article merits a retort as it is so utterly harmless and patently incorrect in observation. After all, the proper response to bad speech should always be better speech, unless in this case, the speech is so bad as to not stand on it's own, of course.
I will say I was surprised, but I wasn't shocked.
Personally I take this article and point to it as further proof that we should focus on 'The Holocaust' and not delve into other areas. They ultimately will only represent a wedge.
I don't share economic opinions broadly with Jorge, but, I also don't share opinions on race and nation with Dean.
We as revisionists are a rich tapestry of different ideas, political, economic, biological, and are not a monolith, and that's ok. Some of the earliest revisionists are so very far apart from me on the social and political spectrum that the only place where we agree is that 'The Holocaust' is in need of historical revision as it does not comport with reality.
/shrug
Personally I don't think this man;
Was
1) Inherently The Embodiment of Evil
2) Stupid
But, that's my opinion. Perhaps I'm wrong and Time Magazine put him on the cover as some kind of joke.
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Re: What a strange and seemingly out of place artice
IH has run a fair number of articles by Ralph Raico in the past, who's published a couple books through the Mises Institute, and a profile on Murray Rothbard. JHR also ran an obituary for Rothbard decades ago.
And people with the Mises Institute have been revisionists in a number of ways, although they seem to stay away from the Holocaust.
But there's probably at least a game-trail-sized road from Ron Paul through Mises/Rothbard/Lew Rockwell to CODOH.
Also, IH could use as many authors as it can get. Some issues are largely John Wear and excerpts from Mattogno's books.
And people with the Mises Institute have been revisionists in a number of ways, although they seem to stay away from the Holocaust.
But there's probably at least a game-trail-sized road from Ron Paul through Mises/Rothbard/Lew Rockwell to CODOH.
Also, IH could use as many authors as it can get. Some issues are largely John Wear and excerpts from Mattogno's books.
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I'm glad to see CODOH featuring more Latinx perspectives. Long overdue. 
Besada is a Holocaust revisionist and is friendly with Germar. It's an opinion piece. Maybe there should be separate outlets/sections for different kinds of articles (research vs op-ed style etc), but there's probably not enough article volume to bother.
There is actually a long history of revisionism within the libertarian movement. (I can't say for sure, but this may have even been the dominant strain of early Holocaust revisionism in America). This connection makes a lot of of sense from a isolationist/non-interventionalist/anti-war perspective since lies during wartime are invariably told in order to advance war.
I listened to some of a radio interview with Willis Carto once (founder of the IHR), and he sounded very much like a standard conservative/libertarian. I think he was a "race realist" and "anti-Semite" as well, but he also seemed to be a big believer in small government, the Constitution, etc.
Besada is a Holocaust revisionist and is friendly with Germar. It's an opinion piece. Maybe there should be separate outlets/sections for different kinds of articles (research vs op-ed style etc), but there's probably not enough article volume to bother.
There is actually a long history of revisionism within the libertarian movement. (I can't say for sure, but this may have even been the dominant strain of early Holocaust revisionism in America). This connection makes a lot of of sense from a isolationist/non-interventionalist/anti-war perspective since lies during wartime are invariably told in order to advance war.
I listened to some of a radio interview with Willis Carto once (founder of the IHR), and he sounded very much like a standard conservative/libertarian. I think he was a "race realist" and "anti-Semite" as well, but he also seemed to be a big believer in small government, the Constitution, etc.
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Re: What a strange and seemingly out of place artice
A strong local government and a weak central government to just insure compliance with the constitution, keep us free from invasion and to engage in international affairs would be 'ideal'.
Current conditions are so far from ideal that an interim period of dismantling the current central government would be necessary.
The conditions Adolf Hitler wrestled with were so RADICALLY divergent from ideal that the tools he had to wield were also not 'ideal'.
I will note that I personally 'test' as a 'Libertarian Centrist'. That said, I'm also a Race Realist and a staunch Nationalist.
People are not interchangeable legos that just happen to have different characteristics. Humanity is diverse in the same way every other family in nature is diverse. A rattlesnake and a copperhead are different. A southern flounder and a sand flounder are different. A jumping spider and a garden spider are different. A chimpanzee and a silverback are different.
Only with humans do we make this arbitrary call that somehow all are the same. To do so is to deny nature itself.
This specifically is where 'libertarians' lose me. I believe in personal accountability, absolute freedom and that our rights stem not from a piece of paper, but from God. I am not however a 'blank slate' individualist any more than I am a 'blank slate' collectivist.
Current conditions are so far from ideal that an interim period of dismantling the current central government would be necessary.
The conditions Adolf Hitler wrestled with were so RADICALLY divergent from ideal that the tools he had to wield were also not 'ideal'.
I will note that I personally 'test' as a 'Libertarian Centrist'. That said, I'm also a Race Realist and a staunch Nationalist.
People are not interchangeable legos that just happen to have different characteristics. Humanity is diverse in the same way every other family in nature is diverse. A rattlesnake and a copperhead are different. A southern flounder and a sand flounder are different. A jumping spider and a garden spider are different. A chimpanzee and a silverback are different.
Only with humans do we make this arbitrary call that somehow all are the same. To do so is to deny nature itself.
This specifically is where 'libertarians' lose me. I believe in personal accountability, absolute freedom and that our rights stem not from a piece of paper, but from God. I am not however a 'blank slate' individualist any more than I am a 'blank slate' collectivist.
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
Re: What a strange and seemingly out of place artice
Thank you for the QRD gentlemen.
As a proud disabled latinx lesbian of color I could not agree more!
Agreed - The post-Trump, post-Covid, post-Gaza world has exposed Libertarianism as even more impotent than it ever was before, and it feels so odd and out of place to be reading this material in today's context. This is not 2012 anymore, and somebody needs to get the memo pronto.
Yes I do agree actually - the need for a kind of "big tent" revisionism is one that speaks to me. That said however, for the "big tent" to work it requires those within the tent to not be "punching right" as the expression goes. Especially when critiquing a model that is demonstrably successful (National Socialism) using a model that has never been shown to be attainable let alone successful (Libertarianism).We as revisionists are a rich tapestry of different ideas, political, economic, biological, and are not a monolith, and that's ok. Some of the earliest revisionists are so very far apart from me on the social and political spectrum that the only place where we agree is that 'The Holocaust' is in need of historical revision as it does not comport with reality.
I agree with this too. My IRL friends and I jokingly call this trail "puberty".pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:07 pm But there's probably at least a game-trail-sized road from Ron Paul through Mises/Rothbard/Lew Rockwell to CODOH.