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[Nessie]

Holy shit Keen, sometimes I regret your contentment to be in here, this should be in the thread. I can't fucking believe I didn't plant that easy layup. Well done Sir. The language could be considered foul, but, the point is solid none the less.

Keen's refusal to accept the evidence that there are large areas of disturbed ground at the AR camps and Chelmno, containing cremated human remains, consistent with hundreds of thousands of corpses at each site, is not evidence to prove that there are no such mass burials.

For a denier to prove that there are no mass graves they would need evidence from;

1 - eyewitnesses who worked at the camps, who state there were no mass deaths or graves.
2 - geophysical studies that find undisturbed ground where the mass graves were supposedly located.
3 - documentary evidence of mass transports of hundreds of thousands of people back out of the camps.

There is no such evidence, so he pretends that the evidence for mass graves, is not evidence at all. Like you, he thinks that his disbelief is evidence in itself.

[Stubble]

Nessie, that door, is a fucking joke. You should know this if you say you are trained to bust down doors.

[Nessie]

Nessie, that door, is a fucking joke. You should know this if you say you are trained to bust down doors.

My training tells me, in its original state, that door would be highly resistant to being forced open. Its layers and how absorbent to blows the inner filling would be, along with the metal reinforcement and how it is set into the door frame, would make it resistant to the RAMIT, let along someone with bare feet, who is being gassed to death.

Your imagined, unevidenced, opinion is not evidence to prove that door could easily be forced open. You have constantly failed to explain why your disbelief, is evidence.

[Stubble]

Nessie look at those 'locks'. Even if that pallet wood nailed to a few blocks in the door held up (it wouldn't) those 'locks' are going to fail almost instantly.

You act like you 'being trained' to use a battering ram trumps my experience with dynamic entry.

Your training is a joke, and, the video below is absolutely shameful. No wonder you think this wooden door made out of paint stirring sticks and filled with saw dust is made from 'unbreakium'.

[Nessie]

Nessie look at those 'locks'. Even if that pallet wood nailed to a few blocks in the door held up (it wouldn't) those 'locks' are going to fail almost instantly.

You act like you 'being trained' to use a battering ram trumps my experience with dynamic entry.

Your training is a joke, and, the video below is absolutely shameful. No wonder you think this wooden door made out of paint stirring sticks and filled with saw dust is made from 'unbreakium'.

It is as if you are only discovering now, that exterior doors are usually designed to not be easy to break through.

Please explain why your disbelief, is of any evidential value. If I don't believe something happened, is that evidence it did not happen?

[Stubble]

You say this as if I've never personally kicked in a door...

Dude...

Those 'locks' would have bent like taffy and a couple of nails wouldn't have kept those boards together.

[Keen]

Keen's refusal to accept the evidence that there are large areas of disturbed ground at the AR camps...

2 - geophysical studies that find undisturbed ground where the mass graves were supposedly located...

There is no such evidence

Undisturbed ground was found by Jankiel Wiernik and his 12 disciples in the EXACT place that he claimed "huge mass graves" containing the remains of 925,000 jews were located.

The ground was disturbed by the LOOKING FOR mass graves , NOT by the digging OF mass graves.

The "undisturbed" ground argument is a red herring AND a logical fallacy.

It takes a special kind of mental illness, the kind that insane HC cult members like roberta muehlenkamp suffer from, to spew something so stupid as to be defined as both a red herring AND a logical fallacy.

But that is what makes roberta so special.

btw, is this the "massive ground disturbance" you are talking about roberta?



Could you tell us how much human remains were discovered in this "area of disturbed ground"?

[Keen]

he pretends that the evidence for mass graves, is not evidence at all.

You have no clear, credible or convincing evidence that so-much-as one mass grave containing the remains of more than 6 people exists within the boundaries of the Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor or Treblinka II camps.

NONE.

BELZEC, CHELMNO, PONARY, SOBIBOR and TREBLINKA II

Are the remains of 2.145 million Jews really buried in the 100 alleged “scientifically proven” mass graves?

(The labeling of asking this legitimate adjudicable question as “hate / antisemitic” is your first clue that they do not want you to know what the answer is.)

OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.



Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.

Foundational legal question: Is it reasonable to doubt that the remains of 2.145 million Jews are currently buried in the 100 specifically identified locations in question - Yes. - or - No. - ??

Foundational legal principles that easily expose this transparent archaeological hoax: BURDEN OF PRODUCTION, BURDEN OF PERSUASION & BURDEN OF PROOF.

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

[Nessie]

You say this as if I've never personally kicked in a door...

Dude...

Those 'locks' would have bent like taffy and a couple of nails wouldn't have kept those boards together.

Please explain how your disbelief has evidential value.

Just because you cannot imagine, work out or believe something is possible, like that door being secure, does not therefore mean there was no gas chamber.

[Stubble]

Nessie, is the king a blood drinking lizard person from another planet that uses a personal hologram device to appear human?

Just because you can't work out how he does it doesn't mean he doesn't...

Nessie, did Martha ride a broomstick out her chimney to go have intercourse with the devil?

Just because you can't work out how she did it doesn't mean she didn't.

Nessie, if santa isn't real, what happens to the cookies and milk?

Just because you can't work out how he does it doesn't mean he doesn't.

Nessie, have aliens visited earth to decapitate cattle and analy probe people they have abducted, as well as committing petty acts of vandalism on crops?

Just because you can't work out to your satisfaction how they get here doesn't mean they don't.

Look, I understand that common sense ain't so common anymore, and hasn't been for at least 250 years. Regardless, this defense of the gas chamber door is your only defense for anything in the holocaust, and when turned to literally anything else, it doesn't apply, but for some fucking reason, in this instance, you think the retort of 'just because you can't work it out' is some kind of fucking own.

You look very silly.

[Nessie]

Nessie, is the king a blood drinking lizard person from another planet that uses a personal hologram device to appear human?

Just because you can't work out how he does it doesn't mean he doesn't...

Nessie, did Martha ride a broomstick out her chimney to go have intercourse with the devil?

Just because you can't work out how she did it doesn't mean she didn't.

Nessie, if santa isn't real, what happens to the cookies and milk?

Just because you can't work out how he does it doesn't mean he doesn't.

Nessie, have aliens visited earth to decapitate cattle and analy probe people they have abducted, as well as committing petty acts of vandalism on crops?

Just because you can't work out to your satisfaction how they get here doesn't mean they don't.

Those are false analogies. For example, there is evidence to prove Santa cannot fly round the world on a sleigh delivering presents. You are comparing what is not physically possible, with what is. The Nazis building functioning gas chambers, is well within their design and engineering capabilities. They reinforced delousing chamber doors to use on the gas chambers.

You are correct to say that just because I cannot work out to my satisfaction that Santa can fly round the world delivering presents, does not mean he does not exist. To prove he cannot, I need evidence. There is evidence to prove that reindeer cannot fly and that Santa is a myth promoted by parents, who are the ones who buy and deliver the presents, drinking the milk and eating the biscuits they left out.

For you to think that is an equivalence to Germans constructing gas chambers, is evidence to prove you lack common sense and understanding of logic.

Look, I understand that common sense ain't so common anymore, and hasn't been for at least 250 years. Regardless, this defense of the gas chamber door is your only defense for anything in the holocaust, and when turned to literally anything else, it doesn't apply, but for some fucking reason, in this instance, you think the retort of 'just because you can't work it out' is some kind of fucking own.

You look very silly.

You have defended one illogical argument with another one, making you look really stupid. There is evidence to prove the Nazis built gas chambers in the Kremas, with gas tight doors. That you do not believe that evidence, does not prove there were no gas chambers. To prove there were no gas chambers you need evidence such as eyewitnesses, documents etc, not just your opinion.

[Stubble]

Nessie, what is the diameter of the hinge pins on those doors, and what is their sheer strength? Same for the 'locks'...

JFC

This door is a fucking joke.

Is it gas tight, yes. Will it prevent an escape? Fuck no.

[Nessie]

Nessie, what is the diameter of the hinge pins on those doors, and what is their sheer strength? Same for the 'locks'...

JFC

This door is a fucking joke.

Is it gas tight, yes. Will it prevent an escape? Fuck no.

You could not bend the metal parts seen in this photo;



You could not break that door down as you are dying from HCN poisoning, with your bare feet.

[Stubble]

I don't have to bend the support band Nessie. I'd have to kick the locks open or kick the door off the hinge pins by fucking sheering them. By kicking the door. With my bare feet.

For the record, I could definitely bend that banding, but, I would have to remove it from the wood. It looks like the band's were secured with lags. That would take a tool. Kicking the door off the hinge pins by sheering them or kicking the 'locks' to failure on the other hand would be almost effortless.

I guess I'm just going to have to mock up a Van Pelt style door and show you.