What Actually DID Happen at Treblinka?

[pilgrimofdark]

She believes he [Jankiel Wiernik] is a liar engaged in a conspiracy to hoax Treblinka architecture…

Where does Caroline state she thinks Jankiel Wiernik is “a liar” ?

I didn't say she stated it.

We can infer her beliefs from her words and actions (like creating maps).

Where Wiernik locates barracks, claiming they were the buildings where he (and other workers) lived in the Upper Camp, Sturdy Colls puts...

"possible grave sites."

To the possible suggestion that she's not familiar with Wiernik's work, she references him dozens of times (over 20 in her thesis, over 30 in her new book).

[Wahrheitssucher]

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There is an area of land out in the Polish countryside, halfway between the villages of Poniatowo and Wólka Okrąglik...
Locals use it for recreational walks, couples for courting and for picnics.

“… It would appear that [this area of Polish country-side has] largely been ignored since the war...
The area is often passed through as part of family walks and leisure activities as if it were any other part of the Polish countryside.
…the fact [is] that the site does in fact appear like a country park…

…During my fieldwork, young couples were [seen] picnicking at the site ...how and why such a disregard for the events [claimed to have occurred here] has come about is unclear...”
~ Caroline Sturdy-Colls. Thesis. Pg. 224

There is a memorial here that appears to be designed to prevent excavation work. It was put there by a collective that can loosely be described as ’international jewry’. ...Construction proceeded over several years. ...The memorial was built between roughly 1960 and 1963 and officially unveiled on 10 May 1964.
..The total cost was about 17 million Polish złoty (in the currency of the time).

1. Anyone who believes this relatively tiny area ever contained a mass-grave of 600,000 human corpses and later the cremains of 850,000 is clearly extremely gullible and ignorant.



2. Anyone who believes and still maintains that the T2 camp — which was on the same spur line as the well-known T1 labour camp — was ever “secret” is more than a gullible ignoramus, they are an overly-emotional dimwit …and/or a paid deceiver

N.B. 1 = 17 million Polish złoty in 1963 would be worth approximately 1,000,000 Euros today when adjusted for inflation and currency conversion.

N.B. 2 = The diagram/map of T2 shown above is from Sturdy-Coll's thesis (page 232).
Caroline Sturdy-Colls is helping to promote the refuted WW2 atrocity propaganda which claims approximately 4 million people of 'ashkenazi jewish' ethnicity were gassed to death in 'extermination camps' in Poland. For this 'work' she was awarded a PhD plus the post of Professor of Holocaust archaeology and genocide investigation and Director of the Centre of Archaeology at the University of Huddersfield.
Professor Sturdy Colls has also been the recipient of several awards for her assistance in the perpetuation of the holyH mass-gassing pseudo-history. These include the 2025 Dan David Prize, the 2021 Distinguished Medal of Honour from the Treblinka Museum, and the 2016 European Archaeological Heritage Prize.
That such a travesty of intellectual rigour and research as that produced by Caroline Sturdy-Coills should be so rewarded I regard as further demonstration that we are currently living in a dishonest, delusional and corrupt society. It demonstrates the level of corruption, in both society and academia, in the UK and worldwide.

The actual evidence in her research:
The legibility of the captions in the screen-grab above is difficult, so just for clarity, the numerous grey-blue circles are captioned as "possible grave sites".

Logical conclusion:
The field work of Prof. Sturdy-Colls and her archeological survey team could not find and prove the existence of ANY of the mass-graves within T2 camp that were claimed to have once contained 600,000 human corpses and later the cremains of those exhumed bodies plus an additional 250,0000 (total 850,000).
She could only locate "possible grave sites".
This appears to conclusively demonstrate –– and empirically prove –– that the claim of a mass-gassing 'extermination camp' at the Treblinka 2 camp is a rather obvious falsehood.

[Hektor]

She believes he [Jankiel Wiernik] is a liar engaged in a conspiracy to hoax Treblinka architecture…

Where does Caroline state she thinks Jankiel Wiernik is “a liar” ?

It is her assertion that the ground disturbances at 'Upper Camp' or 'Camp 2' are 'Huge Mass Graves'. That is an inference that all of the witnesses lied about the camp.

The 'Huge Mass Graves' are not where they said they were, and, there is a hole in the ground where they said they laid their heads, so, obviously those are 'Huge Mass Graves' and the witnesses lied.

See how 'history' and 'corroboration' work? You just make it fit.

I recall her video was surreal to me. They literally had nothing worse showing, but asserted that this somehow proves that 800.000 Jews were gassed, buried, dug out, burned and disposed there.


The evidence is literally in line with the Revisionist thesis, which assumes that there are at least some people that died and where buried there. So remains are to be expected, no 'extermination program' needed.

[TlsMS93]

Where does Caroline state she thinks Jankiel Wiernik is “a liar” ?

It is her assertion that the ground disturbances at 'Upper Camp' or 'Camp 2' are 'Huge Mass Graves'. That is an inference that all of the witnesses lied about the camp.

The 'Huge Mass Graves' are not where they said they were, and, there is a hole in the ground where they said they laid their heads, so, obviously those are 'Huge Mass Graves' and the witnesses lied.

See how 'history' and 'corroboration' work? You just make it fit.

I recall her video was surreal to me. They literally had nothing worse showing, but asserted that this somehow proves that 800.000 Jews were gassed, buried, dug out, burned and disposed there.


The evidence is literally in line with the Revisionist thesis, which assumes that there are at least some people that died and where buried there. So remains are to be expected, no 'extermination program' needed.

If they weren't killed, where did they go?

[Callafangers]

If they weren't killed, where did they go?

It was the historians' job to answer this but they failed (now measured, verified). The question that remains: will the next generation of historians course-correct, or simply fall inline with the prevalent cult-dogma?

[Stubble]

All the evidence I've seen unironically points to them being sent 'east'. They didn't vanish though, I can tell you that, and they don't fit in the dirt at these places. Here and there, people have checked. They aren't there.

[Hektor]

If they weren't killed, where did they go?

It was the historians' job to answer this but they failed (now measured, verified). The question that remains: will the next generation of historians course-correct, or simply fall inline with the prevalent cult-dogma?

Indeed. The question was the go to cop out for those that insisted on the Holocaust Narrativ being true. But it is a form of deceit given that you actually can't prove the gassings an now have to rely on rhetorical tricks to distract from this.

When this is shown, the next copout is to point to the court cases where 'perpetrators confessed' having gassed people. Turns out, they did not do that neither. What you get is accused accusing other accused of doing this, which is a tactic to get concessions. When you point this out, they jump to the next joker argument they can find or make up. So it's essentially a fallacious carousel on the go there. Now that would be unneccessary, if they actually ha case and proven it.

I was pointed to this by historians. more than 20 years ago. One was a phD that was at a German university during the "Historikerstreit" and he actually told me that the professional historians then agreed that the industrial homicidal gassing thesis lacked the evidence that should be there, if it was true. And those historians were not "Neonazis" (which is another copout), they were socialdemocratic, liberal or mildly conservative academics. They conceded that 'crimes' may have occurred, that e.g. 'Einsatzgruppen execution' were plausible. But that's it. No extermination program, no gas chambers, etc.

Would they have admitted to this privately. Yes, probably. Would they publicly dispute the Holocaust thesis? Never, they'd probably discontinue the conversation. And by then they'd point out that they are not allowed to dispute it.

This was all known by post-grad students at the time. Most agreed. But since the Holocaust subject wasn't their area of interest, they did not bother to publish on this, which would be a career stopper, unlikely that a 35 year old historian that would like to further research and publish on e.g. medieval history is going to destroy his opportunities to do so.

What happened afterwards at those universities, I don't know. But the newer generation probably won't know people that were adults during WW2 any longer. Somebody born past 1985. Possibly had grand parents born around/after 1930. They were kids in the era, but unlikely understand what went on and possibly swallowing what was fed through media afterwards.

[Wahrheitssucher]

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Franz Stangl became Kommandant of Treblinka, on 1 September 1942. He was replacing the first Treblinka Kommandant Irmfried Eberl. He was moved there from his position of Kommandant of Sobibor.

After the war he never tried to hide his identity nor did he change his name to avoid detection.
A curious fact if we are to believe he specifically left Austria and moved about with his wife and children from Italy to Syria and finally to Brazil in order to avoid capture and punishment for his alleged crime of mass murder of over a million people at Sobibor and Treblinka.

A comment on the Unz review — on one of the articles about the new book by Caroline Colls perpetuating WW2 atrocity propaganda — discusses this. It also alludes to suspicions regarding the timing and manner of his death while in prison.

It refers to the fact that on the 28th of June 1971 Stangl mysteriously and conveniently died, just 19 hours after being interviewed by Jewish author, Gitta Sereny in the Düsseldorf prison where he was appealing his sentence.
He supposedly died of heart failure.
Hmmmm?
So… Just like Richard Baer conveniently did!

The commenter makes the claim that jewess Sereny brought Stangl soup. For which she was reprimanded.
I checked with an Ai engine and it confirmed she brought him soup the day before he died:

On 27 June 1971, the day before Stangl died, Sereny brought him a thermos of a special Austrian soup that, according to her account, his wife used to make when he was unwell.
Stangl ate the soup and then continued talking with Sereny. He died of heart failure the following day.

It refutes the suggestion this was unlawful or that she was reprimanded for it. It states she was merely criticised by an unnamed “critic”.

A 1998 New York Times interview notes that a critic had challenged her over making soup for him.

Franz Stangl in the Düsseldorf prison where he was serving a life sentence,
photographed by someone accompanying Gitta Sereny.

Here is the comment from the Unz Review article on Caroline Colls’s new work of fiction:

Franz Stangl (1908-71), escaped after the war to Syria and then re-located to Brazil, where he was arrested in 1967 after efforts by Simon Wiesenthal, and than extradited to West Germany. His trial took place in 1970; he was sentenced to life in prison.

Franz Stangl was the only commandant of an extermination camp who was brought to trial.

Whilst he was appealing his sentence and hoping to get out of prison before he died, Stangl was interviewed extensively ‘for 70 hours’ by Jewish author Gitta Sereny (1921-2012), Stangl dying of a heart attack in 1971 shortly after the interviews.
Sereny was sharply criticised for bringing Stangl soup one day.

Sereny’s book on her interviews with Stangl, ‘Into That Darkness’, was published in 1974. The book was hailed as involving some degree of confession by a commandant that Treblinka was in fact a death camp, with German Nazis keeping some degree of distance from death operations by using Ukrainian camp guards and staff.

The denialist [revisionist] claims are that Stangl was trying to win release from prison before he died, by going along with the holocaust narrative … and that when Gitta Sereny finally published her book, Stangl was no longer arround to contradict anything.

Here below is a poster for yet another deceitful dramatised Jewish fiction.


Sereny took no tape recorder!
She didn’t record her conversations!
Nor did she ever allow anyone to see any notes of her conversations with Stangl.
Everything she claimed Stangl said to her is therefore completely unverifiable!!!
How convenient.