AI Solves 9/11

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AI Solves 9/11

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In a rebuttal earlier in another thread, another member posited that there was insufficient evidence linking the Israelis to the WTC attacks on September 11th 2001.

Here, for your consideration is a small collection of facts, by no means exhaustive, that outline some of the facets of the attack and its investigation that imply Israeli involvement.



It is my personal opinion that the CIA and MOSSAD collaborated in the effort. There is no doubt in my mind this was a false flag attack and that it helped foster the goals of the Oded Yinon plan. Furthermore, I point to the proposal of 7 countries in 5 years...

To say there is no evidence of Israeli involvement in the WTC attacks is woefully ignorant.

Some more food for thought;

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Evidence is any information, data, or material that is used to support or refute a claim, belief, or proposition. In all cases, evidence must be relevant, and its credibility and weight determine how persuasive it is. Having evidence for something does not automatically make it true.

Evidence increases the likelihood that something is true, but it can be incomplete, misinterpreted, contradicted, fabricated, or flawed. In law, science, and rational inquiry, truth is usually probabilistic, not absolute.

The fact that Israelis were happy that the Twin Towers were bombed, is technically "evidence" that supports the argument that Israel and/or Mossad was involved in orchestrating or executing the attack on the WTC, but it is very weak.

A lot of people had very different and weird reactions to the collapse of the WTC on 9/11. Why do you think this evidence is strong?
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Well sir, are you familiar with a company called Urban Moving Systems? Were you aware that the mossad had people living 3 doors down from the hijackers in Florida? Are you aware of 'Able Danger'? Are you familiar with the Oded Yinon plan, or how it parallels the fallout of 9/11 with regard to the US response to the attacks? The '7 countries in 5 years' proposal?

'The Empire Unmasked' by Ryan Dawson, is linked above, while not everything is covered, it does go over a fair bit of the evidence pointing at a joint CIA and Mossad operation.

(The first video outlines what appears to be a working group of SAYANIM)
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Urban Moving Systems
Urban Moving Systems was a NJ based moving company that came under scrutiny after 9/11 when five of its employees, Israeli nationals, were detained for suspicious behavior, including reportedly filming and celebrating the attacks. This gave rise to various conspiracy theories. The FBI did investigate them, but the men were ultimately deported for visa violations, and no charges related to terrorism were filed.

Proximity to Hijackers
There have been claims that Israeli intelligence operatives were monitoring the hijackers before the attacks, including reports of them living in close proximity. These claims have not been conclusively proven but continue to fuel speculation about foreknowledge or parallel intelligence operations.

Able Danger
Able Danger was a U.S. military intelligence program that reportedly identified some of the 9/11 hijackers as potential threats before the attacks. A few individuals involved claimed that information was ignored or suppressed, but official investigations, including those by the DOD Inspector General, found no hard evidence that it had identified the hijackers beforehand.

Oded Yinon Plan
This is a strategy document published in the 1980s by Israeli journalist Oded Yinon, suggesting that Israel’s long-term regional security could benefit from the fragmentation of neighboring Arab states along ethnic and sectarian lines. Critics of U.S. foreign policy have pointed out parallels between the Yinon Plan and the destabilization of countries like Iraq, Libya, and Syria after 9/11, though mainstream analysts consider these more a result of geopolitical consequences than an orchestrated plan.

Seven Countries in Five Years
This phrase comes from retired General Wesley Clark, who said he was told by a Pentagon official that the U.S. planned to take out seven countries (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran) in five years following 9/11. Clark's recounting has fueled theories about pre-planned regime change agendas.

I see all of these things as very weak evidence. Not even circumstantial but extremely speculative. Though there probably were Israeli spies that were undercover in the US. The US has a long history of spying on its "allies", most famously, the NSA tapped Angela Merkel's phone.
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That's because you aren't digging deeply enough, for example, with Urban Moving Systems, you think it was just the dancing Israelis, it wasn't. They also had a truck out by Shanksville. That's not easily dismissed.

They closed down and abandoned their offices. That's not an innocent action.

They may have facilitated the transfer of $220,000 dollars to the hijackers. They recieved a grant from HUD in that amount. That amount went to a Pakistani intelligence officer and he moved it to the Saudis, then it went to Bandar Bush's wife who sent it to the US where it was distributed to the hijackers.

That's just part of it, it goes even deeper than that. That's also just one detail. Not a whole picture.

Maybe this is short enough for you to watch it.



'The Empire Unmasked' really is a better window into this issue. While not replete, as there is still more, it is concise.
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Stubble wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 1:32 pm That's because you aren't digging deeply enough, for example, with Urban Moving Systems, you think it was just the dancing Israelis, it wasn't. They also had a truck out by Shanksville. That's not easily dismissed.
I'm not seeing any evidence for a truck by Shanksville. I'll take a look if you can show me an article or something.
They closed down and abandoned their offices. That's not an innocent action.
They were very possibly Israeli spies operating undercover as movers in the US. Their behavior was very suspicious, but I don't think that it points to them being involved in attacked the WTC.
They may have facilitated the transfer of $220,000 dollars to the hijackers. They recieved a grant from HUD in that amount. That amount went to a Pakistani intelligence officer and he moved it to the Saudis, then it went to Bandar Bush's wife who sent it to the US where it was distributed to the hijackers.
I don't see any evidence, even low quality evidence, of a transfer of money to anybody let along the hijackers. Likewise, I'll take a look at that if you provide me with something to evaluate.
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I'll go get the document from the FBI vault later. It's in there, along with other details that have been unredacted over the last 20 years.

For example, there are 2 series of photos from the 'dancing Israelis'. One set is from 1 or 2 days before the event from a similar vantage, the other set, day of.

This is all just 1 facet of it however, and there is much,much more.

This isn't something I concluded over night on a hot head, I've been looking at this critically and deeply for 2 decades.
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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