Is the demonization of Hitler as we see even warranted at all?

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Re: Is the demonization of Hitler as we see even warranted at all?

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Wahrheitssucher wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:27 pm
Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 6:10 pm For those following at home, we have reached this part of the story again.
[...] when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand [...]
In the larger picture — on the world-stage — we also seem to be reaching that same part of the story.

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Dude, that thread you took the quote from has been around the circle with confused jew at least 3 times. Sometimes, I too stand there thunderstruck...

/shrug
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Re: Is the demonization of Hitler as we see even warranted at all?

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Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:54 pm Sometimes, I too stand there thunderstruck...
/shrug
Dr Dalton changing this line was my 9/11 :(
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HansHill wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:19 pm
Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:54 pm Sometimes, I too stand there thunderstruck...
/shrug
Dr Dalton changing this line was my 9/11 :(
Agreed. He should have left that. It is iconic.
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Re: Is the demonization of Hitler as we see even warranted at all?

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Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:54 pm
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:27 pm
Stubble wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 6:10 pm For those following at home, we have reached this part of the story again.
In the larger picture — on the world-stage — we also seem to be reaching that same part of the story.

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Dude, that thread you took the quote from has been around the circle with confused jew at least 3 times. Sometimes, I too “stand there thunderstruck...”
/shrug
Adolf Hitler: “Ich stand manches Mal starr da”.

Literal translation: “I stood some times frozen (rigid) there”.

Dalton translation: “Sometimes I was simply dumbfounded”.

Mannheim translation: “Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck”.

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…I was often astonished at how easily and often they changed their opinions on the same questions — sometimes within a few days, and sometimes even within a few hours.
I found it difficult to understand how men who were reasonable as individuals suddenly lost this ability as soon as they acted as a mass. This phenomenon often tempted me to despair. I argued with them for hours, and when I succeeded in bringing them to what I considered a reasonable way of thinking, I celebrated my success. But the next day, I found that it was all in vain. It was disgusting to have to begin all over again. Like an eternal pendulum, they would swing back to their absurd opinions.

Success was almost always on my side. The great masses can be rescued, but only by sacrificing much time and patience. But a Jew can never be parted from his opinions.
It was simple enough, at that time, to try to show them the absurdity of their teaching. Within my small circle, I talked to them until my throat ached and my voice grew hoarse. I believed that I could finally convince them... But I only achieved the contrary result. It seemed that the more they understood the destructiveness of Social-Democratic doctrine and its consequences, the more firmly they clung to it.
The more I debated with them, the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics.
At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents; but when they got so tied up that they couldn't find a way out, they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should that fail, in spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they couldn't understand the counter arguments, and jumped away to another topic of discussion.
They stated truisms and platitudes; and if you accepted these, they applied them to other matters of an essentially different nature. If you pointed this out, they escaped again and avoided any precise statement.
Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on one of these apostles, one’s hand grasped only a jellylike slime — that slipped through the fingers, and then recombined into a solid mass a moment later.
But if you really struck a blow on one of these adversaries and, due to the audience present, he had to concede the point, a surprise was in store for you the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before. He would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. If you became indignant and reminded him of yesterday's defeat, he feigned astonishment, and couldn't remember a thing — except that on the day before, he was proven correct.

Sometimes I was simply dumbfounded.

I don't know what amazed me more: the agility of their speech or their art of lying.
[Dalton translation].

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Je mehr ich dann mit ihnen stritt, um so mehr lernte ich ihre Dialektik kennen. Erst rechneten sie mit der Dummheit ihres Gegners, um dann, wenn sich ein Ausweg nicht mehr fand, sich selber einfach dumm zu stellen. Nützte alles nichts, so verstanden sie nicht recht oder sprangen, gestellt, augenblicklich auf ein anderes Gebiet über, brachten nun Selbstverständlichkeiten, deren Annahme sie aber sofort wieder auf wesentlich andere Stoffe bezogen, um nun, wieder angefaßt, auszuweichen und nichts Genaues zu wissen. Wo immer man so einen Apostel angriff, umschloß die Hand qualligen Schleim; das quoll einem geteilt durch die Finger, um sich im nächsten Moment schon wieder zusammenzuschließen. Schlug man aber einen wirklich so vernichtend, daß er, von der Umgebung beobachtet, nicht mehr anders als zustimmen konnte, und glaubte man, so wenigstens einen Schritt vorwärtsgekommen zu sein, so war das Erstaunen am nächsten Tag groß. Der Jude wußte nun von gestern nicht mehr das geringste, erzählte seinen alten Unfug wieder weiter, als ob überhaupt nichts vorgefallen wäre, und tat, empört zur Rede gestellt, erstaunt, konnte sich an rein gar nichts erinnern, außer an die doch schon am Vortage bewiesene Richtigkeit seiner Behauptungen.
Ich stand manches Mal starr da.
Man wußte nicht, was man mehr bestaunen sollte, ihre Zungenfertigkeit oder ihre Kunst der Lüge.
A ‘holocaust’ believer’s problem is not technical, factual, empirical or archeological — their problem is psychological.
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