1933 Degesch Document

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Re: 1933 Degesch Document

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ConfusedJew wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:10 pm Cold temperatures slow evaporation dramatically, which is why the Nazis sometimes needed to warm the gas chambers or the Zyklon B itself in winter to ensure a lethal concentration.
Source? You keep making the claim that Zyklon was preheated somehow but you never back it up with anything.
ConfusedJew wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:10 pm High humidity also traps heat, indirectly helping the gas evaporate faster.
Lol. Isn't this a bit of a reach? Humidity means evaporation, which means cooler temperatures. Humidity can't trap heat inside a room that's already closed off.
ConfusedJew wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:42 pm Your response is inaccurate on many levels and because I am developing new scientific hypotheses, you can no longer rely on daddy Rudolf to save you.
Lol, okay, good luck. I am sure you are right and all of the Holocaust historians and experts are wrong. You, the guy who just learned what erco is today.
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Wetzelrad wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:45 pm Lol, okay, good luck. I am sure you are right and all of the Holocaust historians and experts are wrong. You, the guy who just learned what erco is today.
:lol:

His ChatGPT logs will be wiped and reset by tomorrow.
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Callafangers wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:26 pm
HansHill wrote: Sun Aug 03, 2025 9:41 pm
This of course invites its own issues as you highlighted - another being that all 4 columns must be engaged at the same time, so 4 SS men emptying 1 x full tin of Zyklon each, otherwise you have the rather embarrassing scene of an SS man running from hatch to hatch with the offgassing Zyklon blowing in his face.
This has me wondering, have there been any studies on the number of SS staff available for regular/repeated Zyklon-B introduction? 'Witnesses' seem to typically claim it was an actual SS man doing the pouring, so to your point above, with four men on staff at each 'gassing' for this purpose, were they pulled from other duties each time (every few hours?) to step onto the roof and crack open a can of Zyklon? Or were there dedicated staff for this specific purpose? If so, who?
As per Gideon Greif / Shaul Chazan it was indeed SS men who threw in the pellets:

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But the number is inconclusive. However as per Filip Muller it was "disinfecting officers" who threw the pellets in:

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Now for the interesting part - we have two "disinfecting officers" and it is not clear they even were SS men or not. Their descriptions make them seem less than professional though, so maybe they were civilians, who knows! What is clear however is that there were two, and they were smoking, so were clearly not wearing gas masks. Two men, for four holes! This implies they dunked in one full tin into hatch A/B respectively and then ran to hatches C/D to throw another entire tin into each.
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This seems to corroborate Jan Sehn (as per Mattogno, HH Vol 40) that the introduction was not "calculated" in any serious kind of way and the SS men / disinfecting operators were chucking in full tins* in a somewhat relaxed and leisurely fashion befitting their demeanor, with an even number of tins.

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However, this diverges with Hoss's testimony of 5-7, these being odd numbers!

And yes, if we are taking these claims as presented these are 5-7 tins of 1kg denomination, into 4 holes. I have seen it argued before from I forget who that only partial tins were emptied in, but again see my Benny Hill video from earlier.

*For those not paying attention this will also be catastrophic when they try adhere strictly to a 300ppm concentration, but only revisionists can actually be described as paying attention it seems.
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This thread has been derailed again. I want to focus on the amount of time it took for all of the HCN to evaporate or be removed.

I'm not able to find the original Degesch manual from before the war.
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ConfusedJew wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:20 am This thread has been derailed again. I want to focus on the amount of time it took for all of the HCN to evaporate or be removed.

I'm not able to find the original Degesch manual from before the war.
you do not need the manual as the same product was made elsewhere and all the data is available online. This was covered extensively in the old rendition of RODOH.
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Nazgul wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:17 am
ConfusedJew wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:20 am This thread has been derailed again. I want to focus on the amount of time it took for all of the HCN to evaporate or be removed.

I'm not able to find the original Degesch manual from before the war.
you do not need the manual as the same product was made elsewhere and all the data is available online. This was covered extensively in the old rendition of RODOH.
It, doesn't help that the document he says he is looking for (ie a 1933 version) doesn't exist because it is an AI hallucination (lie, wrapped in a new term to make it more palatable that AI lies).
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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I'm hitting a roadblock and this will take me some time to figure out.
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ConfusedJew wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:20 am derailed again.
Absolutely not.
ConfusedJew wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:20 am amount of time it took for all of the HCN to evaporate or be removed.
How do you expect to know the time taken for "all of the HCN" without determining how much was in there in the first place? Additionally as Wetzelrad told you, the uniformity matters to determine evaporation speed.

If you don't think these are determining factors then fine, I will simply hold you to the least favourable for you that is supported by the Judge / Star witness, that being 12 x 1kg tins per Jan Sehn or 5-7 + 3 = 8 - 10 1x KG tins as per Hoss.

You have this irrational tendency to ignore key variables which leads you to:
ConfusedJew wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 3:45 am I'm hitting a roadblock and this will take me some time to figure out.
No shit?
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HansHill wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:12 am If you don't think these are determining factors then fine, I will simply hold you to the least favourable for you that is supported by the Judge / Star witness, that being 12 x 1kg tins per Jan Sehn or 5-7 + 3 = 8 - 10 1x KG tins as per Hoss.
I don't know what you are talking about here. You are inconsistent in assigning credibility to Hoss' testimony and then saying that he was lying.

This is what AI says about his testimony:

"Höss’s initial testimony was compromised by coercion and influence, and his early numbers were untenably high. Yet his later, more considered statements and memoirs remain historically valuable, especially when cross‑referenced with other evidence. So while not fully “debunked,” his Nuremberg affidavit is now seen as inaccurate, his later autobiography more trustworthy, and his core admission of mass murder at Auschwitz unequivocally affirmed."

After being extradited to Poland in 1946, Höss was held at Kraków’s Montelupich Prison. The Polish Supreme National Tribunal, preparing for his trial in 1947, encouraged him to write a detailed account of Auschwitz to serve as a historical record. He had already testified at Nuremberg, but Polish authorities wanted a full narrative from the camp commandant himself.

Höss stated that he wanted to “set the record straight” regarding:
His role in Auschwitz
The operational details of the camp
Corrections to what he claimed were exaggerations or misunderstandings in his earlier interrogations

He seemed motivated by a combination of:
Fatalism (he knew execution was inevitable)
Desire to leave a final account of his actions
Psychological unloading, attempting to explain his obedience to orders and the SS system
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Perfect - you are now locked into Jan Sehn's tally of 12 tins per gassing.
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HansHill wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:11 pm Perfect - you are now locked into Jan Sehn's tally of 12 tins per gassing.
I'd say you are being unfair Mr Hill, but, truth isn't fair.

I say unfair because confused jew doesn't even understand and refuses to see the very apparent problem.

You can't make another man see something though, he has to look. He has to open his eyes.
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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Stubble wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 4:39 pm
HansHill wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:11 pm Perfect - you are now locked into Jan Sehn's tally of 12 tins per gassing.
I'd say you are being unfair Mr Hill, but, truth isn't fair.

I say unfair because confused jew doesn't even understand and refuses to see the very apparent problem.

You can't make another man see something though, he has to look. He has to open his eyes.
I can't wait for the cope as to how 12 KG of Zyklon pellets produces exactly 300 ppm for 29 minutes and immediately stops off-gassing at minute 30. Additionally, I can't wait for him to realise the corner he has painted himself into by ignoring everything.

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ConfusedJew wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:43 pm
HansHill wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:12 am If you don't think these are determining factors then fine, I will simply hold you to the least favourable for you that is supported by the Judge / Star witness, that being 12 x 1kg tins per Jan Sehn or 5-7 + 3 = 8 - 10 1x KG tins as per Hoss.
I don't know what you are talking about here. You are inconsistent in assigning credibility to Hoss' testimony and then saying that he was lying.
No. We are EVALUATING the plausibility of the "Holocaust" story. To do this, we must start out by taking the story as given. If the witnesses say 8 cans, that's what we must assume for purposes of evaluation. Our CONCLUSION is that these stories are not true.

It is like a proof by contradiction in mathematics.
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Archie wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 7:19 pm
ConfusedJew wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:43 pm
HansHill wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 11:12 am If you don't think these are determining factors then fine, I will simply hold you to the least favourable for you that is supported by the Judge / Star witness, that being 12 x 1kg tins per Jan Sehn or 5-7 + 3 = 8 - 10 1x KG tins as per Hoss.
I don't know what you are talking about here. You are inconsistent in assigning credibility to Hoss' testimony and then saying that he was lying.
No. We are EVALUATING the plausibility of the "Holocaust" story. To do this, we must start out by taking the story as given. If the witnesses say 8 cans, that's what we must assume for purposes of evaluation. Our CONCLUSION is that these stories are not true.

It is like a proof by contradiction in mathematics.
OK please account for the 6 million missing Jews because I think that's a rather big contradiction. Maybe even try 2 million to start, I'll take it easy on you.
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