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There's a small legend around Korczak's deportation. Apparently, he was the first to look defiantly at the Germans as he was walking to the Umschlagplatz, so was a spark of inspiration.
It was not a march to the trains, it was an organized, silent protest against banditry. ... They were the first Jewish ranks that went to their death with dignity, giving the barbarians looks full of contempt. ... When the Germans saw Korczak, they asked: "Who is that man?"

- from Ringelblum's Notes from the Warsaw Ghetto
The only drawback is that he wasn't a nude woman carrying a small child, so couldn't really serve the Warsaw Ghetto as a vision of Asherah like anonymous nude women did at other camps, including Treblinka.
Denierbud wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:22 pmFinal story: he with his orphanage children go to Treblinka and are never seen again.
The Warsaw writers saw him go to the train station in Warsaw, not Treblinka. From there, the assumption is he went to Treblinka, based on... what, exactly?

At least it's said Korczak was deported on a day when the Germans were in the ghetto, unlike Wiernik :lol:
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Genia Marciniakówna provides some fascinating info on the failure of the Treblinka Revolt:
On August 3, 1943, the Jews held in the camp revolted. At 4:00 PM, while in the kitchen, I heard gunfire coming from the main camp area. The sporadic shooting grew louder. Confusion broke out in the camp. I ran out of the barracks with the Ukrainians and rushed for the exit, but the guards blocked my path. Before my eyes, some Jews still managed to escape. The Germans and the guards brutally shot all the Jews in the camp at the time. Those who were not fatally wounded were finished off by the guards with an axe blow to the head. Thus, from what I could see, at least five Jews were killed. The revolt was suppressed. Most of the Jews were shot. The rest were taken to the Lublin camp. It should be noted that immediately after the revolt in August, I was dismissed from my job at the camp. The last batch of Jews was sent to Lublin in November. Therefore, I can’t say anything about what happened after I left the camp.

Interrogation protocol of Genia Marciniakówna regarding the construction and operation of the Treblinka death camp. Village of Kosów Lacki, September 21, 1944. Link
The 1944 Soviet investigations are full of interesting details like this, once you strip out the Year in Treblinka book club discussion.
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If I'm reading this right, there was an uprising at Treblinka II, but, being much less successful than the uprising at Sobibor, it wasn't wired about. If I'm understanding correctly, it was put down, and the jews were shuttled to Majdanek and the camp was closed shortly there after.

This is interesting, and I wonder if there are further uncontaminated witness statements to lend this one the support it needs.

You do great work pilgrimofdark.
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I'm almost done cleaning up an AI-assisted translation of the four 1944 Soviet investigations of Treblinka.

I don't know where to put it yet, but it has lots of inconvenient statements outside of the book club discussions.
I know almost nothing about Camp No. 2. I've only heard that Jews were burned there. I personally saw a large fire in the Jewish camp, flames 7-8 meters high. I saw that fire around the clock for 5-6 months.

I saw wagons bringing in slag and ash every two or three days. Five or seven such wagons arrived. The slag was unloaded from the wagons down a slope. Soon, peasant carts arrived, 20 to 30 a day, to deliver and scatter this slag and ash along the highway. According to stories, this slag in wagons came from Camp No. 2, but I didn't witness it myself.

-Stanisław Krym
This matches the Mil-Geo secret map. The purple lines indicate road paving projects, and any roads not in purple are unpaved. Looks like the Germans paved a road parallel to the railroad from Malkinia through Treblinka and south.

http://maps.mapywig.org/m/German_maps/s ... G4_MLC.jpg

This map is from 1944, so it's about as developed as the road network in this area got.
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Recommendation, start a 'Treblinka Revolt' thread, and for God's sake, when you get the material presentable, publish Sir.

You are cooking at least 3 articles and likely one hell of a book from what I can see, and I commend you!
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