A proper Sonthofen thread (Himmler's speeches)

[Callafangers]

"No, bombsaway, you're a wiggly fellow but you don't get to wriggle your way out of this one."

"This is clear-cut."

"bombsaway, you are a crackhead. Stop smoking crack."

"How are you this terrible at reading comprehension? This is embarrassing."

on this page alone

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=602&start=45

So you had time to investigate the issues, evaluate my argument, and you persisted in a line of reasoning that was totally wrong, despite my explanations. This is why you're not worth talking to for me. Also note how members like Stubble went along with your reasoning. An example of groupthink on this forum.

WHOA! What a whopper of a deflection from the topic of the current thread and your embarrassing failings here. Do you really think pointing out how I hurt your feelings in a thread on Sobibor grave volume belongs in this current thread where you have been spanked regarding Sonthofen speeches?

As I said, my jibes toward you were more or less measured/appropriate. I offered a concession regarding the language of grave 5 specifically at that time but my overall assertions about the excavations were correct (as evident in the excavations of graves 1 and 2, which were excavated more or less at full depth, given near-zero corpse remains found throughout the majority of each).

This is deflection even from my casual point on grave volume (itself only peripherally relevant to the current thread): the overall grave volume, according to the best forensic evidence available, is not remotely near even an order of magnitude below what you claim there.

bombsaway, if you wish to challenge the issue of grave volume or any of my statements made in this regard (including the validity of any ridicule made against you), do so in the appropriate thread.

Back to Sonthofen speeches: these speeches say nothing of global Jewish policy -- a policy which we know was about deportation to the East, as evidenced in abundance by Himmler's language in may other speeches and circumstances (in front of SS leaders at Posen/Krakow, with Mussolini, etc.), bolstering evidence from other sources (Luther memo, Schlegelberger letter, Goebbels' diary, official Final Solution policy a la Wannsee, etc.).

Stay on topic.

[Callafangers]

This report is a reminder of just how serious a problem partisans were during the war; hundreds of bridges destroyed and other major devastation to infrastructure, and a single Jewish girl responsible for killing hundreds (perhaps thousands) of German soldiers by blowing up troop trains in the East:

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Just to run some numbers, this article indicates 1.5 million Polish refugees (mostly Jews) came into the Soviet Union in 1939:

The Jews in Soviet Russia, The Australian Jewish News, 28 Jul 1944, p. 6.jpg (105.22 KiB) Viewed 79 times

This earlier article gives a higher figure (2 million Polish and Jewish refugees):

The Australian Jewish News, 19 Apr 1940, p. 9.jpg (132.43 KiB) Viewed 79 times

This article says that as of October 1943, 4 million Jews were rescued by the Soviet Union picking them up in "thousands of trains... with first consideration given to the Jews":

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In January of 1943, this article reports six million Jews accounted for in the Soviet Union, many of them fighting on the battlefields:

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This November 1943 article mentions interviews near Minsk with "Jews speaking many tongues" who had reportedly escaped from camps in Eastern Europe, from a wide range of places including Brest-Litovsk (near Sobibor), Warsaw, Hamburg, Budapest, Rotterdam (Netherlands), and Vienna:

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And finally, here's one of the earliest official NS responses to Allied claims of the 'Holocaust':

The Australian Jewish Herald, 25 Mar 1943, p. 3.jpg (132.4 KiB) Viewed 79 times