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Re: The media and the ADL

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Stubble wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:17 pm
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 9:45 am
Stubble wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2026 8:00 pm White people are Evil! Look, they did this isolated thing… [snip]
Mr.S. I’m not demonising anyone’s ancestors and I do not believe all people of ANY ‘colour’ are evil.

Your replies here are strawmen misrepresentation.
I invite you to consider why you might be doing that.
You take 1 letter talking about 1 guy doing a thing and you say "White People definitely intentionally genocided the native population intentionally with disease'.
Wow!
You are in denial of irrefutable facts. I’m genuinely shocked.
It was definitely not “one guy” doing that. It was AT LEAST one British guy - who definitely was a ‘white’ guy — writing a letter to another white guy about a genocidal plan to kill the native indigenous people of America.

You really can’t admit that? :o

You are currently in denial of the historical fact that in 1763, THREE British soldiers Jeffrey Amherst, Thomas Gage, and William Trent conspired to use smallpox blankets against Delaware and Shawnee indigenous Americans at Fort Pitt.
And obviously there were more than those three were involved in carrying out that plan.
Plus that mass-murder of natives was not one isolated incident.
C’mon deal with the reality and the bigger picture here.
Stubble wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:17 pm I'm xxxxxing sick of it. I'm sick of the attacks on my history, on the Great Men, of all we have accomplished.
No, that’s a self-deceit. What you are actually “sick of” is historical facts that you don’t like.

Stubble wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:17 pm You are parroting Cultural Marxist Critcal Theory about both my people and my Nation.
:lol:
No, I’m not.
I’m just presenting you with irrefutable evidence that you don’t like hearing.
Plus I’m refuting your strawman arguments.
Viz. I am not “demonising” your ancestors.
I do not think “ALL white people are evil” and have not said that.
I am not saying anything from a “cultural marxist” perspective.

Stubble wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:17 pm…the idea of my people as bloodthirsty genocidal maniacs is just straight up commie bullshit.
Your strawman argument is the same demonisation and smear tactic that jooze use calling people ‘anti-semites’ when anyone presents irrefutable evidence refuting any aspect of their holyhoax mass-gassing mythology.
You can’t deal with my actual point and the evidence presented to you so you make false accusations against me.

:? :roll:
A ‘holocaust’ believer’s problem is not technical, factual, empirical or archeological — their problem is psychological.
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Re: The media and the ADL

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Eye of Zyclone wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 2:23 pm
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 9:26 am
Eye of Zyclone wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2026 11:22 pm And now you're using the faulty generalization fallacy !
Er, no. I just gave you irrefutable evidence of something you claimed never happened.
You stated all the death by disease was ”unintentional”.
I provided you with evidence that proves that is a false claim.
It also provides proof of “genocidal intent”.

So… in a way, this is progress. As your reply proves you ARE in denial and can’t acknowledge any evidence that refutes your current belief system.

Good that this has been made clear.
…I didn't claim that it never happened…
You claimed all the spread of disease was unintentional.
I pointed out that this claim of yours is false and is denial of the evidence shown by the Amehurst letter. Here is what you wrote: “the unintentional introduction of diseases in America…
…That …can't be called a genocide by any standards. Intent matters. And intent is the central part of the definition of genocide.”


Eye of Zyclone wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 2:23 pm …Turning a single occurrence into a general rule is a…[snip]
Another repeat of your previously refuted strawman argument. :roll:

Plus denial of multiple historical evidence of genocidal intent.
Several other letters from the summer of 1763 show the smallpox idea was not an anomaly. The letters are filled with comments that indicate a genocidal intent:

“…that Vermin … have forfeited all claim to the rights of humanity”
~ Bouquet to Amherst, 25 June, 1763.

“I would rather choose the liberty to kill any Savage….”
~Bouquet to Amherst, 25 June, 1763.

“…Measures to be taken as would Bring about the Total Extirpation of those Indian Nations”
~ Amherst to Sir William Johnson, Superintendent of the Northern Indian Department, 9 July, 1763.

“…their Total Extirpation is scarce sufficient Attonement….”
~ Amherst to George Croghan, Deputy Agent for Indian Affairs, 7 August, 1763.

“…put a most Effectual Stop to their very Being”
~ Amherst to Johnson, 27 August, 1763.

Why can’t you admit those letters are proof those people had genocidal intent?
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Wahrheitssucher wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2026 7:53 pm Reality: ‘white’, colonist invaders from Europe definitely did attempt to exterminate native, indigenous peoples through disease.
E.g. there is evidence from a letter that they intentionally gave Native Americans smallpox through contaminated blankets, particularly during the French and Indian War in the 1760s.
An act considered today as a form of biological warfare.

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Here is a drawing to assist in understanding the contents of this letter.
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It is exactly this kind of phony history that drew me to the topic of the Holocaust.

Is extermination through disease proved by this letter and this drawing? No.

What we are talking about is Pontiac's Rebellion, a war of choice where the Indians surprise-attacked and massacred Whites. Pontiac used explicitly exterminationist language in framing this war, and they resorted to terror, torture, cannibalism, and the murder of innocents in conducting it. Smallpox had already infected both sides.

In that context, Amherst was held up in a fort laid siege to by the Indians, and he approved of the man who tried, underhandedly, to infect the Indians with smallpox.

This was a remarkably small and singular incident. Nothing indicates that it had any effect. Blankets are not an effective vector for virus transmission. The specific Indians who were given the blankets were not infected. The greater number of documented smallpox deaths came 70 years later.

This event comes no where near proving what you claim, and frankly it seems totally excusable in light of the context.
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 5:00 pm Plus that mass-murder of natives was not one isolated incident.
Your letter is not a "mass-murder of natives". No specific die off is attached to these events.

Do you have no sense of irony? You deny the Holocaust Narrative but see no issue with this obviously slanted narrative? How do you find this letter to be a more convincing proof than Himmler's speeches or whatever?
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Wahrheitssucher wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 5:00 pm
Stubble wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:17 pm
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 9:45 am
Mr.S. I’m not demonising anyone’s ancestors and I do not believe all people of ANY ‘colour’ are evil.

Your replies here are strawmen misrepresentation.
I invite you to consider why you might be doing that.
You take 1 letter talking about 1 guy doing a thing and you say "White People definitely intentionally genocided the native population intentionally with disease'.
Wow!
You are in denial of irrefutable facts. I’m genuinely shocked.
It was definitely not “one guy” doing that. It was AT LEAST one British guy - who definitely was a ‘white’ guy — writing a letter to another white guy about a genocidal plan to kill the native indigenous people of America.

You really can’t admit that? :o

You are currently in denial of the historical fact that in 1763, THREE British soldiers Jeffrey Amherst, Thomas Gage, and William Trent conspired to use smallpox blankets against Delaware and Shawnee indigenous Americans at Fort Pitt.
And obviously there were more than those three were involved in carrying out that plan.
Plus that mass-murder of natives was not one isolated incident.
C’mon deal with the reality and the bigger picture here.
Stubble wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:17 pm I'm xxxxxing sick of it. I'm sick of the attacks on my history, on the Great Men, of all we have accomplished.
No, that’s a self-deceit. What you are actually “sick of” is historical facts that you don’t like.

Stubble wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:17 pm You are parroting Cultural Marxist Critcal Theory about both my people and my Nation.
:lol:
No, I’m not.
I’m just presenting you with irrefutable evidence that you don’t like hearing.
Plus I’m refuting your strawman arguments.
Viz. I am not “demonising” your ancestors.
I do not think “ALL white people are evil” and have not said that.
I am not saying anything from a “cultural marxist” perspective.

Stubble wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 1:17 pm…the idea of my people as bloodthirsty genocidal maniacs is just straight up commie bullshit.
Your strawman argument is the same demonisation and smear tactic that jooze use calling people ‘anti-semites’ when anyone presents irrefutable evidence refuting any aspect of their holyhoax mass-gassing mythology.
You can’t deal with my actual point and the evidence presented to you so you make false accusations against me.

:? :roll:
3 guys talking about 1 guy who was asking for permission to do a thing he had already done that he hoped would kill a handful of people then? Is that better. Holy fuck you need a missing the point award.

You are very clearly spouting commie bullshit and demonizing my ancestors, and, this isn't the first time.

You are not consistently Anti White, but, it does shine through here and there.

Bottom line, America is not 'Stolen Land' and my ancestors did not 'genocide a continent'.

Land deeds and treaties reflect the fact that the land was negotiated, and, the genocide claim falls flat when you look at the numbers. The 'indigenous' population of the United States is far higher now than it ever has been in all of human history. They went from a handful to a population into the millions.
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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