The Testimony and Statements of Konrad Morgan

[bombsaway]

Page 492, day one. Apologies. You are correct.

The rest, I ain't touching that bait.

The point is not to make anyone upset but to call it how it is. Morgen's testimony is a very simple piece of evidence, and if it creates this much confusion that alone is pretty telling about how revisionists handle evidence.

[Archie]

it's obvious Wahrheit is very wrong and had a total meltdown which I would attribute to his fanaticism. Your bias (and fanaticism) shines through when you label this a slight mistake.

Stubble said "your last post has a slight mistake." He was actually just being a gentleman. Something you wouldn't understand.

[Archie]

Page 492, day one. Apologies. You are correct.

The rest, I ain't touching that bait.

The point is not to make anyone upset but to call it how it is. Morgen's testimony is a very simple piece of evidence, and if it creates this much confusion that alone is pretty telling about how revisionists handle evidence.

Fallacy of composition. There was ONE confused person.

This would be like me saying that Nessie's or ConfusedJew's many errors and inanities discredit ALL anti-revisionists.

[bombsaway]

it's obvious Wahrheit is very wrong and had a total meltdown which I would attribute to his fanaticism. Your bias (and fanaticism) shines through when you label this a slight mistake.

Stubble said "your last post has a slight mistake." He was actually just being a gentleman. Something you wouldn't understand.

No Stubble said Wahr was in "slight error" when he was completely wrong viewtopic.php?p=23012#p23012

Stubble has called me a liar, a hack, among other things. You guys can dish it but you can't take it.

[Stubble]

Bombsaway,

When you literally reframe something, and use 2 separate threads to do it, and you invert things, I find it rather grating and I have broken the forum rules on occasions and in consternation called you a liar, a hack, and other things (though to my knowledge, to date, I have not called you the >forbidden expletive<).

I also once during a retraction told you to assume i had said horrible things about your mother. Because I was unhappy about having to retract.

Oh, and I've told you at least one time that I think you sit down to pee.

Tell you what, how about we both drop personal attacks and engage with the topic of discussion, eh? I'll even offer you an apology here and now for having been abusive in the past.

Can we do that? And get back to talking about the statements and testimony of Konrad Morgen in the 'Statements and Testimony of Konrad Morgen' thread?

[bombsaway]

It's not meant as a personal attack. To call you guys fundamentalists is descriptive to me, it has an explanatory power that I want to bring to your attention.

To me this denotes an extreme feeling of attachment that revisionists have to their internal narrative. I can imagine that if incontrovertible evidence was revealed that was completely true and that you made a horrendous mistake in believing in revisionism, I think this would be personally distressing to you and a total mindfuck.

This applies to most revisionists on this board.

If revisionism was shown to be correct to me, I would be shocked of course, but far more fascinated and interested in how something like this could have happened, the psychological or conspiratorial factors in the mass false confessions, the question of the silent witnesses.

This manifests when arguing specific details. You will hold onto your truth, with what seems to me to be an irrational resolve. Eg when you mentioned the German hatred instilled by Holocaust education, I believe you thought about that as an abstract and when I interrogated you about whether you really felt this, you said you did. I believe this was - if not a lie - post-hoc rationalization. I don't believe that you could hate all Germans, our close allies since the partition, for something their grandparents did. Probably there was some German hate, though I would expect that to be mostly coming from Jews, or people who are psychologically troubled.

I figure this thread topic is dead, so if you wish to continue this discussion maybe we can do that here, or let me know and I'll make a separate thread.

[Stubble]

Bombsaway, I told you I was instructed that Germans were evil because of Die Holocaust and that we (my classmates and I) bought it hook line and sinker.

I also told you that in video games we killed Germans for fun. Call of Duty, company of heroes, band of brothers, wolfenstien etc.

Now, if you could stop derailing the thread to talk about 'feelings' or whatever, and we could, you know, talk about Konrad Morgen and his statements, that'd be great.

[Stubble]

This thread is terrible, has run its course, and should be nuked from orbit.

As the OP i respectfully request it be binned. Nothing of value will be lost as the entire thing is simply slop and clutter. Perhaps at some point in the future someone else will put together a thread about the statements and testimony of Konrad Morgen where the statements and testimony of Konrad Morgen will be discussed.

[bombsaway]

Bombsaway, I told you I was instructed that Germans were evil because of Die Holocaust and that we (my classmates and I) bought it hook line and sinker.

I also told you that in video games we killed Germans for fun. Call of Duty, company of heroes, band of brothers, wolfenstien etc.

Now, if you could stop derailing the thread to talk about 'feelings' or whatever, and we could, you know, talk about Konrad Morgen and his statements, that'd be great.

How did they instruct you that Germans were evil, as opposed to Nazi 'evil'? Again considering that Germany was a strong ally of the US, the Germans had repudiated these past events, had strong relations with Israel, conducted internal trials and reckoned with their past, the issue of reparations.

I see no logical reason or argument for why all Germans should be considered evil here.

[Wahrheitssucher]

it's obvious Wahrheit is very wrong

(Ho-hum )
I misremembered that Morgen said all the nonsense stuff he supposedly got from Wirth, etc., in the same INITIAL /FIRST court appearance. I thought it was said same day but after an adjournment.
Oh! So very, very very, wrong! How fanatical of me …(not).

…and had a total meltdown…

Hmmm? Such a “meltdown” that I invited correction; asked for a direct quote to identify the error; then when I got it IMMEDIATELY ADMITTED THE ERROR; apologised; and thanked my corrector.
Yeah, I really lost all control, there.

[Wahrheitssucher]

This thread …should be nuked…

…the entire thing is simply slop and clutter.

It was worthwhile for me. You corrected a misunderstanding I have had for many years. So that's a positive.