Human soap made from the fat of jews

[Stubble]

[Stubble]

[bombsaway]

None of this qualifies as evidence though, from a historical perspective. You know what would, someone working in a human soap factory testifying to mass production using Jewish corpses, or of someone who would have administrative knowledge, like a high up official.

As for Kula collumns HC blog says this

Testimonial evidence

There is an overwhelming number of at least 28 testimonies from former SS personnel, former prisoners and a civilian that the gas pellets were introduced through openings in the roof. Among these are for example the writing of the former Sonderkommando prisoner Salmen Lewenthal buried in 1944 at the extermination site (only discovered in 1962), the report of two escaped Russian POWs from 1944, the testimony of the former Sonderkommando prisoner Henryk Tauber in February 1945 in Poland, the drawings of the former Auschwitz prisoner Yehuda Bacon made in June 1945 in Austria, the testimony of the former camp leader of Auschwitz Hans Aumeier in July 1945 in Norway (British interrogation), the testimony of the former prisoner’s doctor Miklos Nyiszli in July 1945 in Budapest, the drawings of the former Sonderkommando prisoner David Olere in 1945 in France, the testimony of the Civilian engineer Karl Schultze in March 1946 in Erfurt (Soviet interrogation), the testimony of the former Auschwitz commandant Rudolf Höß in April 1946 in Nuremberg (US interrogation), the testimony of the former SS officer Josef Erber towards the historian Gerald Fleming in 1981 and the testimony of the former SS doctor Hans Münch towards the Revisionist Germar Rudolf in 1994.

Many of the testimonies, especially the early ones, were clearly made independent of each other. This is immediately obvious for Lewenthal’s writing, but it is also true for the testimony of Henryk Tauber, Miklos Nyiszli, Yehuda Bacon, David Olere (all 1945, Nyiszli on gas columns in March 1946) and Rudolf Höß (April 1946). These testimonies originated from different places (Poland, Hungary, Austria, France, Germany) and circumstances (Soviet interrogation, Hungarian examination, Bacon and Olere on their own, US interrogation). Furthermore, the testimonies are too different for having been scripted by any conspiracy (let aside there is not the slightest evidence for such), yet they are too detailed and consistent for mere rumour propagation. It can also be safely excluded that the testimonies were scripted by the War Refugee Board Report (authored by several Auschwitz escapees and released in November 1944), since precisely the insider knowledge of the gas shafts going down the basement described in these accounts was not known to the escaped prisoners Alfred Wetzler and Rudolf Vrba, who were never inside the crematoria themselves. Neither was the information included and spread by the Soviet report on crimes in Auschwitz (USSR-008) and the Soviet film footage from Auschwitz shown at Allied trials. The testimonies are independently corroborating and therefore most powerful evidence.

A closer analysis of the testimonies shows that most likely the number of openings amounts to four, small chimneys were constructed around them and wire mesh shafts lead down into the gas chamber. Each of these details is further independently corroborated by documentary or photographic evidence:

I've requested access to the testimonies, but I would have to go through them myself to verify any claims.

[Stubble]

All of that soap testimony meets the same 'bar' for evidence. Somebody saying something without evidence.

Unlike Kula's columns, these testimonies about soap are consistent.

Again, even kula wasn't consistent.

So far as it being corrupted memory, when you see the difference it translates too in reality, you will see that that doesn't wash.

If you would like, I can link you an article covering kula's testimony prepared by Germar Rudolf.

[bombsaway]

All of that soap testimony meets the same 'bar' for evidence. Somebody saying something without evidence.

Unlike Kula's columns, these testimonies about soap are consistent.

Again, even kula wasn't consistent.

So far as it being corrupted memory, when you see the difference it translates too in reality, you will see that that doesn't wash.

If you would like, I can link you an article covering kula's testimony prepared by Germar Rudolf.

Yes please. And tell me your theory (based on what HC blog wrote about the testimonies ) about how these "lies" came to be. Did such details occur organically? (no eyewitnesses specify a completely different mode of introduction) This is strange.

[Stubble]

A relevant thread for discussing kula columns;

viewtopic.php?t=163

The article from Germar covering the inconsistency;

https://codoh.com/library/document/kula ... revisited/

[Nessie]

All of that soap testimony meets the same 'bar' for evidence. Somebody saying something without evidence.

Unlike Kula's columns, these testimonies about soap are consistent.

Again, even kula wasn't consistent.

So far as it being corrupted memory, when you see the difference it translates too in reality, you will see that that doesn't wash.

If you would like, I can link you an article covering kula's testimony prepared by Germar Rudolf.

You have still to quote eyewitnesses to human soap describing it consistently, just a series of posts with "Failed to fetch video details." Even if you can produce people describing a bar of soap consistently, since it has very little to it, that proves nothing.

Kula's own inconsistency, which you also fail to quote, is explainable by normal memory failings and a Kula column has far more detail to it than a bar of soap.

[Stubble]

Your country thinks videos of jews talking about jew soap is hate speech?

How queer

[HansHill]

We have been over all of this already, in this very thread no less.

To summarise:

Mazur: I produced human soap
Soviets: Here is the human soap, please look at it and smell it
British chief prosecutor: The human soap you saw and smelled is indeed jew soap

Therefore, everyone at Nuremberg was presented with not only an eyewitness to seeing the alleged jew soap, but the very person who claims to have alleged to made it, and see it and smell it. They walked away from the courtroom that day having been presented jewish soap.

Everyone in this thread objecting to the above is being utterly dishonest to have any other interpretation of this series of events. Mr Stubble's argument stands - Orthodoxy has nothing of the same strength for the gas chambers.

[Nessie]

Your country thinks videos of jews talking about jew soap is hate speech?

How queer

Why do you think it is something the UK government did that stops me seeing the video? Why not compatibility issues with my browser and its settings?

[Nessie]

We have been over all of this already, in this very thread no less.

To summarise:

Mazur: I produced human soap
Soviets: Here is the human soap, please look at it and smell it
British chief prosecutor: The human soap you saw and smelled is indeed jew soap

Therefore, everyone at Nuremberg was presented with not only an eyewitness to seeing the alleged jew soap, but the very person who claims to have alleged to made it, and see it and smell it. They walked away from the courtroom that day having been presented jewish soap.

Everyone in this thread objecting to the above is being utterly dishonest to have any other interpretation of this series of events. Mr Stubble's argument stands - Orthodoxy has nothing of the same strength for the gas chambers.

To summarise:

Every single Nazi and Jew witness who worked at a Krema: It was used to gas people with Zyklon B
Polish: We have tested what we can access and there are traces of Zyklon B. We have recovered documents from the Construction Office and they record the construction of gas chambers for a special operation involving Jewish people, that needed them to undress, mass cremation ovens and barracks to store all of their property.
German prosecutors: There is evidence to prove mass gassings at A-B and all the staff admit it happened. Motive and opportunity are established, they are all guilty.

That is stronger than the evidence to prove limited making of soap that contained an ingredient from corpses.

[Stubble]

Your country thinks videos of jews talking about jew soap is hate speech?

How queer

Why do you think it is something the UK government did that stops me seeing the video? Why not compatibility issues with my browser and its settings?

It's something on the internet, not an immigrant rape emergency. See, on the one hand one is suppressed and punished for your protection, where the other is almost ignored because, I don't know, reasons. Your government seems very concerned with what is on the internet.

You can play with your browser settings, but I don't think it will help.

[HansHill]

To summarise:

Every single Nazi and Jew witness who worked at a Krema: It was used to gas people with Zyklon B
Polish: We have tested what we can access and there are traces of Zyklon B. We have recovered documents from the Construction Office and they record the construction of gas chambers for a special operation involving Jewish people, that needed them to undress, mass cremation ovens and barracks to store all of their property.
German prosecutors: There is evidence to prove mass gassings at A-B and all the staff admit it happened. Motive and opportunity are established, they are all guilty.

That is stronger than the evidence to prove limited making of soap that contained an ingredient from corpses.

Omitting that the soap has been produced and the gas chambers never have might be convenient for you, but is pathetic to us!

A handy dandy reminder:

[Archie]

We have been over all of this already, in this very thread no less.

To summarise:

Mazur: I produced human soap
Soviets: Here is the human soap, please look at it and smell it
British chief prosecutor: The human soap you saw and smelled is indeed jew soap

Therefore, everyone at Nuremberg was presented with not only an eyewitness to seeing the alleged jew soap, but the very person who claims to have alleged to made it, and see it and smell it. They walked away from the courtroom that day having been presented jewish soap.

Everyone in this thread objecting to the above is being utterly dishonest to have any other interpretation of this series of events. Mr Stubble's argument stands - Orthodoxy has nothing of the same strength for the gas chambers.

HC believes in the Nuremberg soap. But they argue that this was done only on a very limited basis (at this anatomical institute).

[HansHill]

HC believes in the Nuremberg soap. But they argue that this was done only on a very limited basis (at this anatomical institute).

Yes - but they take the soft (human soap) approach as you mentioned, and that the soap was jewish is merely a strawman, or low-quality hysterics by uninformed third parties. I'm demonstrating, via Shawcross the British Lead Prosecutor at Nuremberg, that human = jew (or at least, jew = a subset of human) in this context, and thus was being made at the most serious level, not hysterical third parties.

So HC can stress all they want that this was not presented as such - but it was.



As per Nuremberg IMT day 188:



There is no other goodfaith interpretation here other than Shawcross is accusing the 3R of producing soap from jews, using Soviet evidence. That means at least 2 of the Allied parties are privy to this. For HC to backtrack on this, and BA to obfuscate it (and Nessie to misunderstand it) is dishonest.