The Charlie Kirk assassination and the impulse to declare things as forgeries

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I'm all for a complete file dump after we get a conviction for this guy and a Death Sentence imposed, but there really isn't anything else that we need to know until the trial.

The amount of information released was adequate to identify our suspect in the Charlie Kirk shooting. His parents recognized him and knew about Grandpa's gun, so they convinced their son, Tyler Robinson to turn himself in.

The only thing anomalous is the bullet trajectory of the .30-06 fired at Kirk, which we would need to see the autopsy report for. And I would like to know more about the exact ammunition used and the gun itself.

The cherrypicked chats and texts between Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend, Lance Twiggs can be authenticated with the electronic metadata in the actual trial, and the boyfriend and all of the parents will likely testify under oath.

The bottom line is that the case against Tyler Robinson is damning.

As far as the 1960s assassinations, Doctah King was also hit by a .30-06 fired at relatively close range and the bullet did not exit the numinous Negro's body. This is not surprising since we do know the bullet trajectory in his cadaver (i.e., it went through his jaw, neck, and lodged in his opposite shoulder).

And there were numerous assassination committees held by Congress in the 1970s regarding JFK that nobody now remembers. Senator Frank Church (D-ID) was especially suspicious of the CIA. But although tangents were explored that the Warren Commission thought irrelevant, nothing new was developed.

Oswald acted alone.

The whole story is well told by the massive Vincent Bugliosi tome and by Dale Myers on the Tippit shooting, as I have already explained. Or for the person interested in a much easier read from a Jew, the Gerald Posner book lays it out. As Ricky Ricardo might say, "Wucy, you gots some readin' ta do."

And as far as the vaccines go, you do you.

If the borders were sealed off better, the school kiddies might not need Hepatitis B vaccinations. The state of Idaho eliminated the school vaccine mandates, but 15 percent of their population is Hispanic so we will see what happens.

Smallpox has been eradicated and the younger generations don't have the nasty vaccination scars on the inside of their arms like us Baby Boomers and Generation X'ers do. Polio has come close to eradication ─ unless it doesn't ─ thanks to the Luddites.

It is alarming that there are new cases of Measles in this day and age, since it is easily prevented. People have forgotten how harmful such diseases could be ─ with deaths, blindness, and deafness possible.

The vaccine was not available when I was an infant, and I was nearly killed. Fortunately my Grandmother was a registered nurse and told my parents over the telephone exactly what to do, and then they got me into a small country hospital where the staff gave me an ice bath to lower my fever as I had been convulsing. No brain damage done as far as I know.

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Scott wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:42 pm Oswald acted alone.
Hello Scott, I would be interested in your thoughts on the "multiple Oswalds" theory - I have not finished the book yet but the theory proposed by Cory Hughes feels compelling. If you are not aware of the theory, he has multiple podcasts etc going over it, if you don't have time for the book.
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Scott wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:42 pm I'm all for a complete file dump after we get a conviction for this guy and a Death Sentence imposed, but there really isn't anything else that we need to know until the trial.
:lol: :lol:
TRANSLATION: “Move along folks. We’ve got the killer. Don’t listen to anyone but us.
Remember, we’d never, ever lie to you. Trust us!
Just believe and obey. Ok?
So… Move along.”


Scott wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:42 pm The amount of information released was adequate to identify our suspect in the Charlie Kirk shooting.
:lol: :lol:
TRANSLATION: “we have told you what to believe, so just DO THAT! Believe us. Don’t think, reason, or consider! Just believe!
It is now unpatriotic and possibly interference in the legal process to question or investigate. You have been warned”


Scott wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:42 pmHis parents recognized him and knew about Grandpa's gun, so they convinced Tyler Robionson to turn himself in.
Wrong! As usual Scott is deceiving and avoiding the evidence already shared in this topic-thread that refutes this ‘official’ narrative.

Scott wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:42 pm The only thing anomalous is the bullet trajectory of the .30-06 fired at Kirk, which we would need to see the autopsy report for. And I would like to know more about the exact ammunition used and the gun itself.

The cherrypicked chats and texts between Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend, Lance Twiggs can be authenticated with the electronic metadata in the actual trial, and the boyfriend and all of the parents will likely testify under oath.

The bottom line is that the case against Tyler Robinson is damning.
TRANSLATION: “Its’s damning, God damn you! Why are you still researching…. er… I mean ‘grifting’? Why are you doing that? We’ve told you everything that we want you to know!”

Scott wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:42 pm As far as the 1960s assassinations, [blah, blah, blah]… as I have already explained.

[snip] …And as far as the vaccines go… [snip]

If the borders were sealed off better, the …[blah, blah, blah] …and I was nearly killed. Fortunately my… [snip]
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More investigation is fine, Wahrheitssucher ─ if you have some evidence. But speculation is not evidence.

Some investigators like Gray Hughes have gone to the crime scence at Utah Valley University and walked the neighborhood while filming for YouTube. Hughes also got ring doorbell camera files from some of the actual homeowners that gave copies to the police. Robinson started casing the neighborhood as early as 8:30 in the morning wearing different outfits.

HansHill, I would rather read the Cory Hughes book, if there is a legitimate thesis to be explored, rather than listen to edgy podcasts. I think the Judge Jim Garrison thesis that Oswald was some kind of a deep cover U.S. intelligence asset is complete nonsense.

Former L.A. Prosecutor and author Vincent Bugliosi spends quite a lot of time on Oswald's life.

Oswald wasn't that complicated, and he was not much more than a coffee gofer in the Marine Corps either but he was a decent marksman. Oswald did reasonably well in the Marine Corps until he got bored, like everything else that he did in life. Oswald had a severe learning disability (dyslexia) and struggled to fill out a job application or to write a simple business letter ─ but of course, in his mind, he was a persecuted genius.

Oswald was a self-styled revolutionary who defected briefly to the Soviet Union, but they were not impressed. The Soviets gave Oswald a basic job at a Minsk radio factory at an inflated rate of pay, but he was actually a mediocre worker. Dissatisfied, Oswald was able to come back to the United States with a new wife along and without any issues because he was not a spy ─ not that he would have ever had access to actual classified information while in the Marine Corps. Like the fictional Gomer Pyle, Lee Harvey Oswald never advanced in the USMC past Private First Class (E-2).

The CIA was not interested in him at all, but that might have changed if he had actually been successful in cultivating some relationsips with Cuban activist groups. The FBI was not interested in him either, except that they wanted his current address on file since he was a former defector.

Oswald's wife, Marina Oswald knew that her husband had taken a pot shot with his new Italian surplus Carcano rifle at General Ted Walker earlier in the year ─ a John Birch Society politician hated by the Left far more than John Kennedy ─ but she feared deportation and did not report anything to the police. Oswald could not support her and their two kids and already wanted to send her back to Russia.

Marina Oswald is the one who actually took the "resume" photos (several different poses) in the back yard of their apartment on Neely Street in Dallas in the Oak Cliff neighborhood near the Texas Theater (where he would be captured) and his future boarding house, and the location where officer Tippit was shot. This is only a couple of miles from downtown Dallas, and today there are plans to turn the Neely house into a museum like the Boarding House already is. Oswald denied that his "resume" photograph(s) with the rifle, revolver and Communist flyers were genuine, but Marina testified that it was in fact she who took them, and she also had plenty of copies and different poses.

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Watch it before its banned…



Despite the mistake on ‘rifle reassembly’ this is good satire! Watch and learn,
(erm… except you Scott. Your job is to contact Jootube and make a complaint about anti-septicism)



The two above are a month old. Here’s their latest:
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So you are using AI to make your arguments and evidence. JFC.

Too bad CODOH doesn't have a puking emoticon.

:roll:
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Scott wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:51 am So you are using AI to make your arguments and evidence.
Er, no, Scott.
Anyway… I told YOU not to watch. ;)

But since you have, I’d better spell it out for you, so you understand / can not misrepresent further.

A.) those videos — with argument by satire — that I just posted were “made” (that is = created/invented) by HUMANS (not Ai).

B.) the humans “made” (invented/created) a script and a storyboard that showed how ridiculously unbelievable much of the ‘official’ story is of Kirk’s killing. They invented satire which concentrates on highlighting the improbable parts plus the highly probable zionist involvement and their motivations. (Something which I appreciate you — and all zionist, their stooges and Wetzelrad — won’t be happy with.)

C.) These humans (not Ai) then got actors to act out their storyboard and say the lines these humans (not Ai) had “made” (created/written).
D.) They then used Ai to tweak their film.
Understand?

Regardless. It IS an amusing, fairly accurate and brilliantly executed satire. It shows how much the official story stinks and how no unbiased or intelligent person would believe it, let alone promote and defend it.

I didn’t expect you to enjoy or appreciate it, as it blows your bullsh*t misrepresentation of the actual details and the probable motivations out of the water. But I did expect you to discontinue — at least temporarily — your misrepresentation of the actual facts, not double-down with further misinformation. ;)
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Okay, satire. Fair enough.

Your friend, the Grifter Candace Owens, actually did a piece on her edgy podcast where she thinks that the Utah state symbol, the beehive, means that the Mormon Pioneers were Marx & Engels Communists and that they killed Charlie Kirk.

I guess the apiary arts and the proverbial "land of milk and honey" and worker bees metaphorically or otherwise means from Utah territorial history that the Mormons had to have assassinated Charlie Kirk, who died in "the beehive state."

Candace Owens is just moronic.

She is also conflating 1847 and 1848.

Here is some help from AI:

1847
"Significant events in 1847 include the continuation and key battles of the Mexican-American War, the arrival of Mormon pioneers in the Salt Lake Valley and the end of major fighting in California."

1848
"The Communist Manifesto was commissioned by the Communist League and published in London in 1848. The year 1848 was a pivotal time marked by a wave of revolutions across Europe. It was also a significant year for the United States, with the end of the Mexican-American War, the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo which ceded large territories."

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Scott wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 4:32 am Okay, satire. Fair enough.

Your friend, the Grifter Candace Owens, actually did a … [snip]
Candace Owens is just moronic… [snip]
C’mon! :roll:
These are now increasingly “moronic” replies from you, Scott.
What’s going on with you?

More specifically, why does evidence showing the flaws in official narratives of assassinations that have a high probability of Zionist-jewish and Israeli involvement, make you get your panties in a twist and resorting to wall-of-text avoidance, distraction and obfuscation?

P.S. She’s not my “friend”.
And how do you conclude that she is “swindling people out of money through fraud” [definition of ‘grifter’] by pointing out facts regarding the Kirk killing — facts that the government is suppressing?

P.P.S.
For anyone swayed by Scott’s repeated attempts at misdirection from flaws in the Kirk-killing official narrative (JFK, vaccines, Mormons, etc.,) I recommend this post recently shared here: https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=18346#p18346
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It was literally Candace Owens' argument:

"The Beehive State," Charlie Kirk killed in Utah, state motto "industry," worker bees metaphor. Therefore, Communism. Like pin the tail on the donkey, she will move on to another moronic argument the next day. That is what grifters do.

If she is not your friend, fine, but I would not be so quick to defend her.

So far I have seen zero evience that the Jews killed Charlie Kirk, either.

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Scott pretends he sees “no evidence” of Israeli involvement in assassinations on USA soil.
This despite there being a 771 page book detailing the evidence of Jewish/Israeli involvement in the assassination in broad daylight of popular US President. John F Kennedy.

A book containing much “evidence” that Scott has been directed to numerous times.
https://ia802304.us.archive.org/8/items ... 0Piper.pdf

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Now Scott claims he has seen no evidence for Jewish-Israeli involvement in the Kirk murder!! :o :?

:roll: The actions of Lord Horatio Nelson at the Battle of Trafalgar come to mind:
https://www.calendar-canada.ca/frequent ... -blind-eye

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Here is some of that evidence which Scott is ‘turning a blind eye’ to: the Google searches BEFORE the killing.

EVIDENCE OF ISRAELI/JEWISH FORE-KNOWLEDGE
Google search trends, analyzed by Baron Coleman, revealed pre-event searches in Washington DC and Israel related to individuals, locations and entities connected to the Charlie Kirk assassination, suggesting possible pre-planning, though Jewish-owned-and-controlled Google has now removed evidence of the searches.

Pre-Assassination Searches:
Google trend searches conducted by Baron Coleman show that terms related to the Charlie Kirk assassination, such as the hospital where he was taken, the named medical examiner, the distracter George Zinn, the building the shooter was supposedly shooting from (Losee centre), etc., etc., etc., were searched in the District of Columbia and Israel before the event occurred.

Geographic Anomalies:
The searches for these terms originated primarily from the District of Columbia and Israel, which for a normal person should raise questions of connection to the crime and/or of prior knowledge. Only deludes or deceivers would ignore it, deny it and try to distract from it.

Coincidence vs. Planning:
The possibility of coincidence is not tenable as the sheer number of related terms searched in advance makes such a conclusion statistically preposterous, thus the existence of so many searched details suggests planned assassination.

Scrubbed Data:
That once this evidence was reported, the Google trend search data was removed by Google, suggests that the incriminating data was deleted to disallow confirmation of Baron Coleman's findings.

Predictive Searches:
The realization that specific searches related to the assassination — the hospital, the address where the Mauser was ‘found’ and numerous involved individuals — occurred before the event, suggests a level of pre-planning and/or insider knowledge that is highly unusual and SHOULD warrant MSM news reporting plus FBI investigation, and yet neither has occurred.

Spy Plane Anomaly:
A US government-contracted spy plane with tail number N1098L made unusual flight manoeuvres near the site of the rally, including dropping to 204 feet above the ground at near-stall speed, both before and after the assassination, PLUS was searched for in Israel prior to the event. That — without investigation — is not ‘evidence’!
But… Yet again the fact it gets no MSM reporting nor is mentioned as an avenue of enquiry in the FBI investigation IS “evidence” of something. I leave it to the sagacity of the reader to conclude what.

Supporting Evidence:
July 20th was a key date of the unusual searches showing fore-knowledge.

The name of Hunter Kak, the student who asked Charlie Kirk the last question, was searched in Israel before the event, but not in the District of Columbia or Utah until after the shooting.

Searches were made in Israel for the medical examiner before the assassination!

Data removal:
If the Google trend data has been "scrubbed," as claimed, who else but Israel and/or zionist-jews at Google could do that?

WARNING: Don’t attempt to consider or ponder upon that last question if you are a person who doesn’t want to see any ‘evidence’. ;)
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Not a fan of the late tabloid journalist Michael Collins Piper. Stick to real history, methinks.

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Scott wrote: Fri Nov 07, 2025 3:48 pm Not a fan of the late tabloid journalist Michael Collins Piper. Stick to real history, methinks.
Translation:
“I shan’t read or admit reading any meticulous research laying out evidence that refutes the belief-system I am deceitfully promoting. Instead I’ll resort to an ad hominem, logically fallacious, smear tactic”.

SUMMARY:
In other words Scott is repeatedly doing a ‘confused jew’. ;)
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Piper's book on the Mel Mermelstein lawsuit was okay at least.

Try harder.

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US Army flyovers of the ‘Kirk assassination’ event

An Army spy plane circled near UVU the morning before and minutes after the occurrence presented as a ‘shooting’.

As recently mentioned (but ignored by the obfuscator filling this topic-thread with irrelevant nonsense) the United States government may have much more information about what has been presented to us as ‘Charlie Kirk’s assassination’ than they’ve disclosed.

That is possible because a United States Army High Accuracy Detection and Exploitation ‘spy-plane’ aircraft flew a mission that reached it’s nadir parallel to the university at an altitude of 5,700 feet 9:16 AM (MDT) on the day of Charlie Kirk’s appearance at Utah University.

The return flight to the Utah Valley University left Glacier National Park at 11:33 AM (MDT) and descended to a lower cruising altitude fourteen minutes before the fatal shot was fired.

It then began a steeper descent on a path circling Utah Valley University one minute after the shot was fired.

The lowest altitude of 4,900 feet was at 2:49 PM — sixteen minutes after the alleged ‘shot’.

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The plane — a 2023 Bombardier BD-700 (6500) with tail number N1098L — is registered to Lasai Aviation II in Manassas, Virginia.
It was reported as an ATHENA/HADES program aircraft by an aircraft spotter …but at time of publication that account is no longer available.

More on the type and function of these US ‘spy-planes’ can be read here:
https://www.army.mil/article/265353/had ... telligence

The above info is taken from this website:
https://www.resistancerabbit.com/p/the- ... n-flyovers

It is info that we will not receive from our corrupt, predominantly-jewish-owned-and-controlled, main-stream ‘news’ outlets, nor from the FBI investigation team.
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