"No Nazis Denied"

[Nessie]

None were eyewitnesses to the inside of an AR camp, Chelmno or the Kremas, or provide any evidence of millions of Jews still alive in 1944.

And what guarantees that they are less qualified to say anything about what you think happened? After all, they were in the field, they could have said that there were hordes heading towards the Kremas and no one leaving, but that is not what they say they saw, and this even comes from witnesses who were there on the Kremas side in the barracks.

It is common knowledge to historians and criminal investigators, that hearsay, which is what a witness heard about, but did not see, is less reliable than eyewitness evidence, which is what the witness saw. So-called revisionists have no eyewitnesses, not one, to what happened inside certain key, specific places, which is remarkable, considering how many people went inside those places. So, as you are doing, they try to pass off hearsay as reliable, when it is hearsay that suits them. If the hearsay does not suit you, such as Vrba's testimony, you dismiss it. That is inconsistent and you cannot justify your cherry picking approach.

[TlsMS93]

It is common knowledge to historians and criminal investigators, that hearsay, which is what a witness heard about, but did not see, is less reliable than eyewitness evidence, which is what the witness saw. So-called revisionists have no eyewitnesses, not one, to what happened inside certain key, specific places, which is remarkable, considering how many people went inside those places. So, as you are doing, they try to pass off hearsay as reliable, when it is hearsay that suits them. If the hearsay does not suit you, such as Vrba's testimony, you dismiss it. That is inconsistent and you cannot justify your cherry picking approach.

Vrba admitted that he heard the rumors as a source for his reports, the ones I gave him did not. We have to draw pictures for certain people

[Nessie]

It is common knowledge to historians and criminal investigators, that hearsay, which is what a witness heard about, but did not see, is less reliable than eyewitness evidence, which is what the witness saw. So-called revisionists have no eyewitnesses, not one, to what happened inside certain key, specific places, which is remarkable, considering how many people went inside those places. So, as you are doing, they try to pass off hearsay as reliable, when it is hearsay that suits them. If the hearsay does not suit you, such as Vrba's testimony, you dismiss it. That is inconsistent and you cannot justify your cherry picking approach.

Vrba admitted that he heard the rumors as a source for his reports, the ones I gave him did not. We have to draw pictures for certain people

What does it tell you, that despite hundreds of thousands of people going inside the Kremas, and thousands working there, you cannot find a single eyewitness you believe?

[TlsMS93]

Thousands is it?

[Nessie]

Thousands is it?

Yes. Camp transport records, witnesses and photos corroborate and prove that hundreds of thousands went inside the Kremas after selections and camp staffing level documents and eyewitnesses corroborate to prove thousands worked in the Kremas. On the 28th July 1944, over 1800 people worked in Kremas II to V at Birkenau;

https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-his ... /19440728/

But, you cannot find a single eyewitness you believe. What does that tell you?

[TlsMS93]

1800? It says 800, that's hundreds, not thousands.

[bombsaway]

1800? It says 800, that's hundreds, not thousands.

800 doing "cleanup/disinfection" + 900 "wood unloaders"

By the way these numbers are repeated in other labor reports from around this time. How many prisoners were drying at Asuchwitz in the summer of 1944.

[TlsMS93]

800 doing "cleanup/disinfection" + 900 "wood unloaders"

By the way these numbers are repeated in other labor reports from around this time. How many prisoners were drying at Asuchwitz in the summer of 1944.

There would be 800 sonderkommando working in the Kremas if we interpret the official version of these documents. Of course, the article is giving a sinister interpretation to these functions, which according to the revisionist version was to deal with natural deaths in the camp.

If the exterminationists think that 900 “wood unloaders”, or would they be lumberjacks from the local forest as in other passages, would be enough to kill more than 400 thousand people...

As for what Danuta Czech thinks happened to those gypsies, there is an article in Codoh about this episode, it would be worth revisiting it one day.

[bombsaway]

800 doing "cleanup/disinfection" + 900 "wood unloaders"

By the way these numbers are repeated in other labor reports from around this time. How many prisoners were drying at Asuchwitz in the summer of 1944.

There would be 800 sonderkommando working in the Kremas if we interpret the official version of these documents. Of course, the article is giving a sinister interpretation to these functions, which according to the revisionist version was to deal with natural deaths in the camp.

If the exterminationists think that 900 “wood unloaders”, or would they be lumberjacks from the local forest as in other passages, would be enough to kill more than 400 thousand people...

As for what Danuta Czech thinks happened to those gypsies, there is an article in Codoh about this episode, it would be worth revisiting it one day.

However you want to spin it, that's 1700 workers on a single day. Over a few years of operations there definitely would be thousands working there. Mattogno s interpretation of the labor force reports is they are fabrications, lies, by the Nazi bureaucracy itself to make it seem like more prisoners at Auschwitz were working than actually were.

[TlsMS93]

However you want to spin it, that's 1700 workers on a single day. Over a few years of operations there definitely would be thousands working there. Mattogno s interpretation of the labor force reports is they are fabrications, lies, by the Nazi bureaucracy itself to make it seem like more prisoners at Auschwitz were working than actually were.

Yes, the Nazis were already preparing documents to exonerate themselves when captured, while at the same time claiming that they destroyed documents that would incriminate them.

[Nessie]

1800? It says 800, that's hundreds, not thousands.

The Krema workforce column totals are 22, 60 and 1737. That was for one day. There was no way the same staff worked there throughout 1943-4.

How come you cannot find a single witness, out of that lot, to support any revisionist claim about the Krema usage?

[TlsMS93]

The Krema workforce column totals are 22, 60 and 1737. That was for one day. There was no way the same staff worked there throughout 1943-4.

How come you cannot find a single witness, out of that lot, to support any revisionist claim about the Krema usage?

This is because according to their myth they shouldn't even be living camp survival to begin with. Their existence means nothing sinister has happened.

[Nessie]

The Krema workforce column totals are 22, 60 and 1737. That was for one day. There was no way the same staff worked there throughout 1943-4.

How come you cannot find a single witness, out of that lot, to support any revisionist claim about the Krema usage?

This is because according to their myth they shouldn't even be living camp survival to begin with. Their existence means nothing sinister has happened.

So why can not find a single eyewitness to nothing sinister happening inside the Kremas?

[TlsMS93]

So why can not find a single eyewitness to nothing sinister happening inside the Kremas?

Have you ever heard of the saying: “Even parrots can talk?” So, people within a common context where they are forced to do something end up gaining a collective, a common sympathy, so if some support something even if it is absurd, others will not oppose it even if this other person can denounce some arbitrariness of the others and there was no reason to humanize their captors since they were doing something abominable in their religion, which is to cremate the bodies of their own compatriots.

[Nessie]

So why can not find a single eyewitness to nothing sinister happening inside the Kremas?

Have you ever heard of the saying: “Even parrots can talk?” So, people within a common context...

The Nazis and the Jews did not have a common context.

... where they are forced to do something end up gaining a collective, a common sympathy, so if some support something even if it is absurd, others will not oppose it even if this other person can denounce some arbitrariness of the others and there was no reason to humanize their captors since they were doing something abominable in their religion, which is to cremate the bodies of their own compatriots.

It is normal for an accused, who is innocent, to deny the crime they are falsely accused of, especially when that crime did not even take place. Yet, no SS camp staff, who worked at the Kremas, in the AR camps or at Chelmno, denied that gassings had taken place and said what did instead.