Criticism of Jews as a Collective (Not Just as Individuals) is Ethical and Warranted

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Re: Criticism of Jews as a Collective (Not Just as Individuals) is Ethical and Warranted

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Stubble wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:55 am Mr Hill, don't sell yourself short. You also have a winning personality, as apparent by the adoration of CJ, your new crush for life.

You hung the moon for him or some such, apparently, you're the only reason he still comes around.

See, I'm some low IQ luddite, along with everybody else on the forum. You though, you can hold a conversation (in reality, you have depths of patience that I know I lack, for I ran out of wick to burn on that fellow his first week, and each week since, only doses can I tolerate).
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Re: Criticism of Jews as a Collective (Not Just as Individuals) is Ethical and Warranted

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Archie wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:29 pm The issue is conflicts of interest.

Going back many centuries, diaspora Jews have been a small but consequential minority population in European societies. If they just made their money and kept to themselves there wouldn't be too much of an issue. But their tendency is to become dominate in media, academia, law, finance, etc. And when this is pointed out they LIE about it.

There are levels of Jewish apologetics on this. The first stage is to lie and deny and accuse the noticer of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. In mainstream media that is usually as far as the discussion goes if the issue is brought up at all. If they are cornered and can't lie about the overrepresentation, then the second stage is to dishonestly deconstruct basic concepts like "group" and "interests." They might acknowledge some of the overrepresentation but say all these people are only incidentally or coincidentally Jewish. It's all meritocratic and there are no "Jewish" interests involved. In some cases they will deny that there are Jewish interests because Jews do not agree 100% on everything. (By this logic, supporting Israel is not a Jewish interest because some Jews claim not to support it.)

There are Jews and they do have group interests. The reason they lie about this is that they know their interests conflict with those of the broad majority. Hence they have to conceal their activities and promote what they want from the shadows or under false pretenses. The drawback of this strategy their power, based primarily on financial and media power, is very fragile and leads to catastrophic reactions against them once a critical mass of people become aware.

I am okay with Jews existing and having interests, but they need to be upfront. They need to own what they do.
The above quote is from earlier in the thread, I wish I would have noticed it sooner. The second paragraph is excellent and the last line also stands out... That said, I think most here understand that if Jews were to be upfront, they would be retaliated against. I have known at least one honest Jew in my lifetime who admitted this conundrum; he was very troubled by it. He had a problem with what his tribesmen were doing but felt stuck, like he couldn't say anything, presumably because it'd put him at risk. Perhaps it is like AreYouSirius mentioned, with his experiences in Mormonism. But Judaism has a much longer history, and I think the great incentives in Judaism (wealth, resources) make it even harder to leave or speak out (Mormonism also has not wronged nearly as many people externally). The default Jewish action is to keep doing what is "good for Jews", all other peoples be damned.
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Re: Criticism of Jews as a Collective (Not Just as Individuals) is Ethical and Warranted

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ConfusedJew wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 5:19 am You are not even close to being smart enough or decent enough as a person to be worth my time anymore. HansHill is the smartest person on this forum so unless I find other intelligent and articulate and respectful people, I will only be speaking with him from now on.
From nearly six weeks ago…
borjastick wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 6:57 am Once again we allow ourselves to be played with, to be the amusement of a tangled web of minutiae and to tilt at rainbows and windmills. CJ is just mucking around, forever creating cul de sacs for his own pleasure and yet we respond and pretend he is curious and genuine, naive even.
He's wasting our precious time and energy which we give willingly and for free while he is smirking and engaged in deceit and play acting.
Leave him to his own devices. The questions and points we raise that he cannot answer and knows to be true he either disrupts or ignores.
Avoid people like this…
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HansHill wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 10:11 am Borjastick is right.
Confused jew has now evaporated whatever goodwill he was dangling onto, and as such I will respond to his B*llsh*t in kind.

Pilpul: Alot if not all of us, landed at Codoh having been exposed to the writings of people like Dr Kevin MacDonald, Dr Andrew Joyce and indeed Adolf Hitler. We are very familiar with this territory. You will not out-pilpul us, and this has not been working for you, and it will continue to fail. You and your pilpul are completely checkmated at every turn here, fortunately.
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HansHill wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:44 am
Stubble wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:55 am Mr Hill, don't sell yourself short. You also have a winning personality, as apparent by the adoration of CJ, your new crush for life.

You hung the moon for him or some such, apparently, you're the only reason he still comes around.

See, I'm some low IQ luddite, along with everybody else on the forum. You though, you can hold a conversation (in reality, you have depths of patience that I know I lack, for I ran out of wick to burn on that fellow his first week, and each week since, only doses can I tolerate).
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HansHill wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:53 am
I appreciate the compliment but I think you are overestimating my contributions here. My only real "skill" if you can call it that, is referencing & collating source material. My notes are very extensive, and I can reference X or Y argument from sources relatively quickly. But that's all - i lack the breadth and depth of posters like Scott, or Archie and I recognise posters like Mr Ziffel are specialists on specific areas, which I lack.

I would find it both funny and ironic that you appreciate my posts exactly because I can reference source material, which is exactly what I have been advising you to do, and to ditch the ChatGPT responses!

**Edit** if you search my post history, i opened my account on Codoh by asking questions to the more experienced posters, and i have never stopped since!
The sources are helpful but it's really the coherent argumentation that I value. There is maybe some of that here but these personal attacks are untrue and miserable to deal with.

I guess if some of the specialists have something to add that would be helpful but have a general debate initially is a good place to start to achieve shared understanding of what the facts and arguments are and then it makes sense to drill down to specifics.

I"ll be gone this weekend so probably won't be able to be as engaged but I will be able to pick up again next week.
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Stubble wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:55 am Mr Hill, don't sell yourself short. You also have a winning personality, as apparent by the adoration of CJ, your new crush for life.

You hung the moon for him or some such, apparently, you're the only reason he still comes around.

See, I'm some low IQ luddite, along with everybody else on the forum. You though, you can hold a conversation (in reality, you have depths of patience that I know I lack, for I ran out of wick to burn on that fellow his first week, and each week since, only doses can I tolerate).
We had a disagreement on the causes of hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic but you weren't able to express your viewpoint clearly. It's not about being high or low IQ, that barely matters to me, but you were not able to respond with logic. Instead you just insulted me.

The hyperinflation was largely an effect of the punitive reparations that were placed on Germany after WW1.

On the Allied side, the reparations push was led by Clemenceau, Lloyd George, and French and British civil servants and politicians — who were not Jewish. The decision was framed as national policy, reflecting France’s huge wartime losses, British war loans, and the desire to limit Germany’s power.

Reparations were entirely a product of official inter-Allied negotiation during the Versailles Peace Conference (1919) and subsequent meetings (Spa Conference 1920, London Schedule 1921, etc.).
No organized third parties — neither political movements, private groups, nor prominent figures — outside the victorious governments demanded reparations from Germany.

The Treaty of Versailles included Article 231, known as the “war guilt clause,” which placed full responsibility for the war on Germany and its allies. The motive was not just punishment — it was also practical: France needed rebuilding; Britain needed to pay debts; Belgium was wrecked. Many economists (like John Maynard Keynes) warned that excessive reparations would cripple Germany’s economy and poison international relations. This criticism turned out to be largely accurate.

Most modern historians reject the idea that Germany alone caused the war. Instead, they see a shared responsibility among multiple powers.

Germany and Austria-Hungary: Aggressive support for Austria-Hungary after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand triggered the crisis. Germany’s “blank cheque” to Austria is seen as reckless.
Austria-Hungary: Insisted on punishing Serbia harshly, escalating the crisis.
Russia: Mobilized quickly to support Serbia, which turned a regional dispute into a continental war.
France and Britain: Some argue they could have done more diplomatically to restrain Russia or moderate Austria’s demands.
Balkan nationalism: Tensions and rivalries in the Balkans were a long-running fuse for conflict.

France and Belgium suffered the worst physical damage. To them, Germany had to pay, and the easiest legal path was to declare it responsible.

The Allies needed to justify imposing payments and restrictions. A clear “guilty party” made this politically simpler than admitting a shared blame that would complicate compensation demands.

Germany was effectively scapegoated by the Versailles Treaty and then they turned around and scapegoated the Jews. Hyperinflation was resolved mostly by the time that Hitler rose to power but it left a deep national resentment.
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ConfusedJew wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:01 pm The sources are helpful but it's really the coherent argumentation that I value. There is maybe some of that here but these personal attacks are untrue and miserable to deal with.
Here goes ConfusedJew again, pretending to be reasonable, innocent, and just "curious". People calling you a "liar" and the like is not an insult -- its a statement of fact, proven again and again, from your very first days here (https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=339) to your use of censored "G-d" in the same paragraph as claiming you're "not a religious Jew" (earlier in this thread), and more. Your feigned shock and offense about being labeled a liar is much like labeling a person a "Holocaust denier" instead of engaging with their arguments. You're deflecting from the evidence and implications of these claims against you by implying there is something morally wrong with the person saying them.

You are dishonest and disingenuous, ConfusedJew. Each time you pretend otherwise, I will call you out. It's going to become quite redundant, yet I refuse to allow this nonsense. You are a disgusting liar who will continue be exposed as such, for truth to retain its rightful place here.
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CJ, you pretend to want me to spoon feed you a whole hog, while you refuse to open up for the airplane.

This might surprise you, but, the economic collapse of weimar is a complex topic and requires a lot of information to be conveyed.

When I give you links to a speech and a book, and you respond in minutes saying you don't understand why I linked them, I can only assume it is because you elected not to assimilate anything from them.

I suppose I will now provide a list of names in categories for you, as you are utterly incapable of even the slightest cursory research on your own, instead relying on AI to arm you with what you assume are quality weapons (arguments).

Some notable jewish communist agitators and intelligentsia;

Rosa Luxemburg

Karl Liebknecht

Kurt Eisner

Hugo Haase

Clara Zetkin

Notable jewish financial leaders that manipulated the economy of post war Germany;

Walther Rathenau

Albert Ballin

Jakob Goldschmid

Felix Warburg

Paul Warburg

Some notable jewish progenitors of social rot;

Arnold Zweig

Kurt Tucholsky

Magnus Hirschfeld

Siegfried Kracauer

Erich Mühsam

Some notable jewish propagandists and 'consensus makers'/public opinion manufacturers;

Walter Rathenau

Theodor Wolff

Ernst Toller

Karl Radek

Paul Levi

No doubt to this you will retort, but, this is such a small handful of people, and, jews are not a monolith, after all, not every jew was a communist etc. To this my reply is that you should closely examine the speech by Hitler given at the Siemens dynamo plant and his speech freedom or slavery.

This smattering of names is not exhaustive, it is illustrative however, given the prominence of the names listed.

Was every jew involved in 'the jewish renaissance' known as weimar, the exploitation of the German volk and the usurpation of an entire nation? In so far as they denied then and deny now the nepotism, subversion and corrosion of culture that happened there, yes, they bare some guilt. You yourself minimize and deny the impact of jewish influence on the wreck that was weimar.

In short, those who forget the past, are condemned to relive it.
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