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One of Nessie's major witnesses, brazenly lying in court.

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Archie wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:22 am One of Nessie's major witnesses, brazenly lying in court.

Yes, the identification of Demjanjuk was challenged in court and the witnesses found to be unreliable and unable to identify him. When a Nazi denied being responsible, his defence is able to challenge witnesses. That explains why in the other camp trials, witnesses were not challenged, because the Nazis admitted to the allegations and crimes. Demjanjuk denied responsibility or being there, but just like every other Nazi, he did not provide any evidence to challenge that gassings took place at TII, or for mass resettlement.

Demjanjuk's testimony was all over the place, as he conveniently forgot and made false claims, as he brazenly lied in court.
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Nessie wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:32 am It is normal witness behaviour to use figures of speech, repeat atrocity stories and lie.
Nessie,

*9 - Is it - True. - or - False. - that; Not one of the alleged - “HUGE MASS GRAVES” - of Treblinka II alleged by so-called “eyewitnesses” - has ever been proven to exist - ??

XIV - Is it - True. - or False. - that; It is common for juries in the U.S. to be given instructions that include some form of the following: “If you decide that a witness has deliberately testified untruthfully about something important, you may choose not to believe anything that witness said.” - ??
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Nessie wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:23 pm I complied a list of available online evidence for TII... such as... archaeological finds of large areas of disturbed ground containing cremated remains... That is corroborating evidence to support the witness claims.
Providing so-called "evidence" that allegedly "supports" the liewitness allegations that have already been proven to be lies is meaningless. No amount of contrary "evidence" can overrule what has already been proven, and that is:

We know, with 100% certainty, that the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the one hundred graves / cremation pits that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at BELZEC, CHELMNO, PONARY, SOBIBOR and TREBLINKA II, in which verified human remains have been tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY FIVE PEOPLE.

NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE - PROVES - NO MASS MURDER

Of course, if Nessie disagrees with the above, all he has to do is show us a "huge mass grave" with the remains of 6 people in it.

What are you waiting for Nessie?

What are you so afraid of?
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Nessie wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:32 am
Nazgul wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:08 am
Nessie wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:22 am
Does that therefore mean everything Wiernik said is a lie and nothing he describes happened? The answer is no. From all the studies of witness behaviour, the claim about a child being torn in half can be simply explained by the use of figures of speech, or repeating atrocity hearsay and it does not mean that therefore Wiernik made everything up.
This is not witness behaviour, this is in his book. It is all carefully planned, contrived atrocity propaganda without a shred of evidence.
It is normal witness behaviour to use figures of speech, repeat atrocity stories and lie.
Oh my god I think you truly can’t hear it when you say it.

How is a witness a witness if they are “repeating atrocity stories?” Recounting something not directly experienced by the experiencer means they weren’t there for anything and didn’t see nuthin’.

Parroting something not directly witnessed by the “witness” means the witness was not in fact a witness. So what good are their campfire fables to our discussion of the veracity and feasibility of the Holocaust as a WWII genocide atrocity?
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AreYouSirius wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:51 am
Nessie wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:32 am
Nazgul wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:08 am This is not witness behaviour, this is in his book. It is all carefully planned, contrived atrocity propaganda without a shred of evidence.
It is normal witness behaviour to use figures of speech, repeat atrocity stories and lie.
Oh my god I think you truly can’t hear it when you say it.

How is a witness a witness if they are “repeating atrocity stories?” Recounting something not directly experienced by the experiencer means they weren’t there for anything and didn’t see nuthin’.

Parroting something not directly witnessed by the “witness” means the witness was not in fact a witness. So what good are their campfire fables to our discussion of the veracity and feasibility of the Holocaust as a WWII genocide atrocity?
Those who worked inside the camps, will have both seen and heard about, what happened inside the camp, which makes most of the witnesses a mix of hearsay and eyewitness testimony. For example, one of the earliest escapees from TII, Abram Krzepicki. He was inside for only 18 days, and he worked sorting property, not at the gas chambers. He is an eyewitness to mass arrivals, people being told to strip they were going for showers, the theft of their property and that they did not subsequently leave the camp. His descriptions of the gas chambers are hearsay and he has nothing to say about cremations, as he had escaped before that started. He is very much a witness to what happened inside TII.
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Archie wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:22 am One of Nessie's major witnesses, brazenly lying in court.

Eliahu Rosenberg was merely one of a great many people who are jews who lie for ‘the holocaust’. They lie for a narrative that serves and exalts ‘jews’.

We are currently witnessing many thousands of people world-wide who self-identify as jewish lying on social media to deny the Gaza genocide.

In both cases — whether lying: a.) for an allegedly attempted genocide or b.) against one we have all been able to ‘witness’ daily, for 2 years, in 4k definition — the lies are to serve collective jewish self-interests.

E.g. 1. We have witnessed here a person calling themself a ‘confused jew’ lying to defend the holocaust mythology, and to pre-emptively protect jewish people from collective punishment for their collectively perpetrated crimes and their active, collective complicity in them. He does this by dishonesty. By lying.

E.g. 2. We routinely witness the paid shabbat goyim Nick Terry (aka Sanitycheck) doing likewise, predominantly with deceitful, ‘wall-of-text’ obfuscations.

E.g. 3. Another person here, whose avatar name promotes mass-killing and destruction from the sky, does the same.

Q. WHY LIE AND CONSTANTLY SPREAD LIES?
Why these lies, and deceits-by-omission?
What could be the motivation for offering up previously refuted lies and bogus questions ad nauseum?

I have put this question here to CJ a couple of times but received no reply.

A. HERE IS PERHAPS WHY:
Here is a well-known jewish promulgator of holocaust memes describing the modus operandi:
..constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore.
A people that can no longer distinguish between truth and lies cannot distinguish between right and wrong... With such a people, you can do whatever you want."
-Hannah Arendt, (Oct, 1906 - Dec, 1975)
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The obvious problem with the claim of witness lying, is how widespread it is. Transport and witness evidence proves that over 2 million people went to an AR camp, Chelmno or saw inside an A-B Krema. Yet, so-called revisionists cannot produce a single eyewitness who describes a process inside those places, that did not involve gassings. They concentrate on a few eyewitnesses (with some hearsay witnesses thrown in) and allege 100% of the eyewitnesses lied. Such a perfect conspiracy, that involves mass lying by Nazis, as well as Jews, appeals only to die hard conspiracists, as being possible.
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Wahrheitssucher wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:05 pm
Eliahu Rosenberg was merely one of a great many people who are jews who lie for ‘the holocaust’. They lie for a narrative that serves and exalts ‘jews’.

We are currently witnessing many thousands of people world-wide who self-identify as jewish, lying on social media to deny the Gaza genocide.

In both cases — whether lying: a.) for an allegedly attempted genocide or b.) against one we have all been able to ‘witness’ daily, for 2 years, in 4k definition — the lies are to serve collective jewish self-interests.

E.g. 1. We have witnessed here a person calling themself a ‘confused jew’ lying to defend the holocaust mythology, and to pre-emptively protect jewish people from collective punishment for their collectively perpetrated crimes and their active, collective complicity in them. He does this by dishonesty. By lying.

E.g. 2. We routinely witness the paid shabbat goyim Nick Terry (aka Sanitycheck) doing likewise, predominantly with deceitful, ‘wall-of-text’ obfuscations.

E.g. 3. Another person here, whose avatar name promotes mass-killing and destruction from the sky, does the same.

Q. WHY LIE AND CONSTANTLY SPREAD LIES?
Why these lies, and deceits-by-omission?
What could be the motivation for offering up previously refuted lies and bogus questions ad nauseum?

I have put this question here to CJ a couple of times but received no reply.

A. HERE IS PERHAPS WHY:
Here is a well-known jewish promulgator of holocaust memes describing the modus operandi:
..constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie,
but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore.

A people that can no longer distinguish between truth and lies
cannot distinguish between right and wrong... With such a people, you can do whatever you want."

~ Hannah Arendt, (Oct, 1906 - Dec, 1975)
Notice how none of the apologists here at CODOH for the mythological holocaust narrative dare go near the current live-streamed genocide of Palestinians?

None of them has acknowledged the blatant lying of the same agreed talking-points, on prime-time TV, by the jewish justifiers of this genocide.
Isn’t that revealing of how apologists and defenders of ‘holocaust’ lies, deny collective jewish lying?

Not one of the defenders here at CODOH of the protected narrative of the alleged WW2 ‘shoah’ genocide-of-jews narrative, has yet said anything about the 2023-2025 genocide-BY-jews in Gaza.
That silence speaks volumes.

They’ll repeat ad nauseum the same lame talking-points defending the claims of ‘6 million jews murdered or of ‘millions of jews exterminated in death-camps by gas, or of millions of jews vanishing into mass-graves that either can not be found or prohibit independent excavation.
They’ll witter on and on, repetitively and unashamedly, about a relatively tiny number of deaths during a world war that claimed 65 to 85 million lives. But they’ll write nothing about a genocide occurring NOW in their own lifetimes.

They comment nothing about the tissue of blatant LIES being told collectively by jews and disseminated NOW by the complicit authorities RIGHT NOW in their own lifetimes. But they’ll jabber on relentlessly about how eye-witnesses to mass-gassings during WW2 innocently made ‘mistakes’ when they made nonsense and physically impossible claims.

The double-standard is both i.) blatantly clear and ii.) disgustingly dishonest.
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Wahrheitssucher wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:03 am ....

They comment nothing about the tissue of blatant LIES being told collectively by jews and disseminated NOW by the complicit authorities RIGHT NOW in their own lifetimes. But they’ll jabber on relentlessly about how eye-witnesses to mass-gassings during WW2 innocently made ‘mistakes’ when they made nonsense and physically impossible claims.

The double-standard is both i.) blatantly clear and ii.) disgustingly dishonest.
That Jews lie, is not evidence to prove that all the Jews who said they saw gassings lied. In the same way that Germans lie, but that does not mean all Germans who said they saw gassings lied.

When an eyewitness, recollecting what they saw, often years, if not decades after the event, are asked to describe what they saw and give estimations such as how many people fitted inside a gas chamber, how long gassings took or how large the graves were, it is more than likely they will give different answers and many answers will be inaccurate. Only people who refuse to study witness behaviour, memory and recall, will believe that a witness who makes a physically impossible claim, is lying.
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