"Revisionists cannot work out how the Holocaust happened"...

[HansHill]

.... is an implicit admission that the details as presented do not survive routine interrogation!

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[Cowboy]

I only joined this forum about a month ago, but I've been browsing it since the start of the year. This "argument from incredulity" point that I have seen repeatedly since I started lurking is an obvious cop-out, for lack of a better term.

This is basically how I see it:
1: "Hey man, I made 300 three pointers in a row today at the gym!"
2: "I don't think that's feasible. You aren't that great of a shooter, and you were playing on a double rim."
1: "Well, just because you can't work out how I made 300 shots in a row, doesn't mean I didn't do it."
2: "What? I mean, I guess that's fair to an extent, but I've never seen you make more than 7 in a row..."
1: "Yeah well it happened, and you just have to believe me because it's technically possible."

How are reasonable conversations supposed to be had with this attitude?

[HansHill]

Welcome Cowboy. Your post is a really good example of why I always aim to reply to these frauds: Because every thread is some newcomer's first impression of Codoh!

I am another example of it

[Archie]

No one on planet Earth can "work out how it happened."

Pretty much any attempt to debunk anything would fall under "not being able to work out how it could happen."

[bombsaway]

What I wonder, is the most glaring example of so called Holocaust mythos that "cannot be worked out"?

How does this contrast to oh say, working out how at least 2.5 million were evacuated into Russia without a shred of evidence surfacing of what happened to them there?

Or how they got hundreds of "perpetrators", over many decades, in different countries, and across the East/West divide to confess to crimes they didn't commit, without a single recantation?

The answer to these questions have not been given, no books or even articles have been written about them. Rather what you see is just a retreat to the impossibility of the mainstream story. The mainstream story being impossible, proves that these things must have happened. Witnesses saying "impossible things" is the proof they were coerced.

[Nessie]

.... is an implicit admission that the details as presented do not survive routine interrogation!

No, it is a logical request, that since so-called revisionists claim the very well evidenced Holocaust did not happen and millions of Jews were not murdered, then why can they not evidence what did happen, and millions of Jews still alive in camps and ghettos in 1944 and liberated in 1945?

[Nessie]

I only joined this forum about a month ago, but I've been browsing it since the start of the year. This "argument from incredulity" point that I have seen repeatedly since I started lurking is an obvious cop-out, for lack of a better term.

This is basically how I see it:
1: "Hey man, I made 300 three pointers in a row today at the gym!"
2: "I don't think that's feasible. You aren't that great of a shooter, and you were playing on a double rim."
1: "Well, just because you can't work out how I made 300 shots in a row, doesn't mean I didn't do it."
2: "What? I mean, I guess that's fair to an extent, but I've never seen you make more than 7 in a row..."
1: "Yeah well it happened, and you just have to believe me because it's technically possible."

How are reasonable conversations supposed to be had with this attitude?

False analogy. You are comparing something that is physically impossible, to something that is not. There is no doubt that in the 1940s, the Germans had the design and engineering skills to build gas chambers, dig mass graves and cremate corpses on pyres and in ovens.

Your analogy would be closer to reality if you changed 300 three pointers in a row, to 30. That is closer to the 7 you accept had happened. If anyone is going to work out how to expand gassing, grave and cremation capacity to kill millions, it was the Germans. For example, the Topf & Sons engineer descriptions of how they expanded cremation oven capacity, so that multiple naked corpses could be continuously cremated, in ovens developed from the more traditional single corpse in a coffin cremation. So-called revisionists just pour scorn on the engineers, rather than provide evidence as to how many corpses were cremated at the A-B Kremas. It is evidenced, not just from the engineers, but others who worked inside the Kremas, and documents, that cremation capacity was greatly expanded. That is corroborating evidence to prove mass cremations.

That is like the claim for 30 three pointers in a row, being corroborated by other people who saw it happen, and a scoresheet with the scores recorded on it. The additional evidence confirms the claim.

[Nessie]

No one on planet Earth can "work out how it happened."

Pretty much any attempt to debunk anything would fall under "not being able to work out how it could happen."

Historians can. I have just exampled how cremation capacity was expanded at A-B, to cope with multiple corpse continuous cremations, so that hundreds of thousands of corpses could be cremated. That you do not believe the claims, does not therefore mean A-B could not cremate hundreds of thousands of corpses.

[Nazgul]

Historians can. I have just exampled how cremation capacity was expanded at A-B, to cope with multiple corpse continuous cremations, so that hundreds of thousands of corpses could be cremated. That you do not believe the claims, does not therefore mean A-B could not cremate hundreds of thousands of corpses.

Yet no where in the world including Deutschland was this technology used to deal with the covid crisis fatalities (3.4 million world wide WHO). There is a good reason for this fact, that technology never existed in the highly exaggerated form claimed. Enhanced state of the art crematoria yes, but not a body every few minutes or so.

[HansHill]

.... is an implicit admission that the details as presented do not survive routine interrogation!

Very well evidenced Holocaust

You have multiple threads ongoing where your """""very well evidenced Holocaust"""""" is falling apart under light scrutiny. Hence your hilarious pivot

[Nessie]

Thank you for another thread that proves "revisionists" are not really revisionists at all, as they cannot evidence a chronological narrative of what happened to the millions of Jews the Nazis arrested during WWII.

[AreYouSirius]

Thank you for another thread that proves "revisionists" are not really revisionists at all, as they cannot evidence a chronological narrative of what happened to the millions of Jews the Nazis arrested during WWII.

Huh? My god. What definition of “revisionist” are you referencing? The definition of revisionism isn’t what you purport, the purpose of revisionism is to verify, or analyze, or critique, or disprove the orthodox narrative through scientific inquiry, study of historical artifacts, archeology, and analyzing witness testimony.

If your mainstream narrative could withstand one iota of verification, a lot of us would be orthodox believers.

Do you receive remuneration to uphold the mainstream Holocaust narrative? Like are you funded by a Jewish “education” NGO or something? Methinks you are in some form!

[Cowboy]

I only joined this forum about a month ago, but I've been browsing it since the start of the year. This "argument from incredulity" point that I have seen repeatedly since I started lurking is an obvious cop-out, for lack of a better term.

This is basically how I see it:
1: "Hey man, I made 300 three pointers in a row today at the gym!"
2: "I don't think that's feasible. You aren't that great of a shooter, and you were playing on a double rim."
1: "Well, just because you can't work out how I made 300 shots in a row, doesn't mean I didn't do it."
2: "What? I mean, I guess that's fair to an extent, but I've never seen you make more than 7 in a row..."
1: "Yeah well it happened, and you just have to believe me because it's technically possible."

How are reasonable conversations supposed to be had with this attitude?

False analogy. You are comparing something that is physically impossible, to something that is not. There is no doubt that in the 1940s, the Germans had the design and engineering skills to build gas chambers, dig mass graves and cremate corpses on pyres and in ovens.

My point was to demonstrate how ridiculous the "argument from incredulity" looks from an outsider's perspective. I used the 300 number to demonstrate how hyperbolized the claims of the Holocaust are. Also, I notice that nobody can ever seem to give you an analogy to this argument that fits your criteria (maybe it's because you used some flawed logic?). Most of the analogies I see posted against this point would make sense to lurkers.

I actually don't think it's possible or feasible to bury the population of Seattle, unbury them, cremate them on pyres that are several meters of bodies high, bury the ashes and bones, in a limited amount of time, in a limited area in one camp, especially when there is scarce amount of physical evidence that a massacre on this scale occurred. This is simply an absurd claim to make. To put it into context, we have to remember that there are people out there who think that 6 million Jews were systematically gassed in Auschwitz, so what is discussed on this forum is way beyond the knowledge of the masses. If you were to ask the majority of people who know about the Holocaust what happened at Treblinka, they might not even recognize the name of the camp. The reason they might believe the orthodox claims about Treblinka is because they have been emotionally conditioned to reject "Holocaust denial". Any objective use of logic, reasoning, and research into these claims will show that they are simply ridiculous. "B-b-but just because you can't work out how it happ.." I literally couldn't care less. As someone who has been seriously researching revisionism for only 6 months, thank you for being one of the reasons that I no longer believe the official narrative.

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Your analogy would be closer to reality if you changed 300 three pointers in a row, to 30.

I think the Holocaust would be closer to reality if we changed the 6,000,000 to 600,000.

[Stubble]

I think you are being generous Cowboy.