Majdanek this and that

A revisionist safe space
B
Booze
Posts: 113
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 pm

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Booze »

Fred, during the reconstruction they replaced the planks which enclosed the original doorway.
They used full length lumber so that the horizontal seam which was visible no longer exists.

The best way to hide any trace of that window, would be to do the same there. Did they use new full length lumber in that section where the window was?
W
Wetzelrad
Posts: 130
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:35 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Wetzelrad »

Booze wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:02 am Can we pinpoint the location of the building he is standing on, by virtue of what is in the background?
I had thought it was B41 but Mattogno said it's the "Drying Facility" AKA Hut 28 AKA gas chambers V and VI (p.135).

Mattogno suggests that its purpose may have been to vent air during the day and hold hot air in overnight. It would be interesting if you can find any hint of it being a postwar construction.

Regardless, we shouldn't overlook the simple fact that this is a staged post-liberation photo which is still used despite this building being dropped as a supposed gas chamber.
F
Fred Ziffel
Posts: 165
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:02 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Fred Ziffel »

My guess is no on the window. that can be seen in the photo I already provided. the building you see is being reassembled at the time of reassemble and can see the window.
A photo taken from the outside after the refurbishing will tell us that. The only photo I have is from Mr. Hunt's video and that was taken before the refurbishing. My guess is still a confident no.

Please note the only reason I mention the window in this, it gives credibility and accuracy to the March 31,1942 drawing.

Here is a clownish drawing I got from the museum they told me was more credible. I sent them a copy of the March 1942 drawing. Why clownish? Look at the two doors on the bottom right of their drawing. the door opening characteristics are wrong. And, there were 40 shower heads in the bathing room as per a German Hygiene report in 1943, not 20 as shown. I think the museum got this drawing from the contractor in 2014.
Attachments
doors to B42 characteristics.JPG
doors to B42 characteristics.JPG (98.78 KiB) Viewed 90 times
FLAGTzNNU0CrvET0.png
FLAGTzNNU0CrvET0.png (152.61 KiB) Viewed 90 times
u564e56.JPG
u564e56.JPG (122.05 KiB) Viewed 90 times
I do not believe anything one is not allowed to question
F
Fred Ziffel
Posts: 165
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:02 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Fred Ziffel »

Yes Note the B41 roof is slanted, the photo here has a flat roof

Yes, GC 5 and 6. from what I read it is the roof of the either the laundry room or the drying room located between Fields 1 and 2 at Majdanek
Here is a photo I believe to be B41
Attachments
B41 roof hole.JPG
B41 roof hole.JPG (63.2 KiB) Viewed 89 times
I do not believe anything one is not allowed to question
B
Booze
Posts: 113
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 pm

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Booze »

Fred Ziffel wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:13 am Yes Note the B41 roof is slanted, the photo here has a flat roof

Yes, GC 5 and 6. from what I read it is the roof of the either the laundry room or the drying room located between Fields 1 and 2 at Majdanek
Here is a photo I believe to be B41
You're saying that in your photo the 'chimney' is off to the side of the center part of the roof- which has the windows, correct?
If so, do you have any knowledge of what room it is above?
Does that chimney correspond to one of the shafts we see in the ceiling of b41's undressing room?
F
Fred Ziffel
Posts: 165
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:02 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Fred Ziffel »

Yes, look at other photos of the building and you see the "rafter windows"

The L shaped room with the window 6 ft off the ground

yes it is one of the shafts
I do not believe anything one is not allowed to question
B
Booze
Posts: 113
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 pm

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Booze »

Fred Ziffel wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:57 pm Yes, look at other photos of the building and you see the "rafter windows"

The L shaped room with the window 6 ft off the ground

yes it is one of the shafts
There must have been poor communication on my part, or a misunderstanding by me on what you were saying regarding the work order that was previously discussed.
What we are discussing now is what I assumed those shafts were part of.

Stating the obvious just for the sake of verifying, the museum is now claiming the chimneys were there to ventilate the room while it was used for disinfecting clothes?
The ventilation scheme just happens to be identical to currently claimed zyklon chimneys?
But, they removed these chimneys! Why?

Their story line, whatever it is, becomes a harder sell when we have another building which was claimed to be a gas chamber with a zyklon chimney, reported in a major newspaper.
Does that building still exist?
Is that building now said to have been a disinfection chamber?

It's bizarre to me that there was a physical presence of these chimneys at Majdanek which no longer exist, and they no longer maintain were a function of gas chambers. Yet the same chimneys are a major component of the gas chambers of Auschwitz.
W
Wetzelrad
Posts: 130
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:35 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Wetzelrad »

Booze wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:16 pm It's bizarre to me that there was a physical presence of these chimneys at Majdanek which no longer exist, and they no longer maintain were a function of gas chambers. Yet the same chimneys are a major component of the gas chambers of Auschwitz.
Good point. They actually had chimneys at the false gas chambers (IV, V, and VI) but not at the real ones. Now they've dismantled (?) the ones at Majdanek so we can't even get a close look or use them for comparison.

Imagine: A man is accused of two murders with identical facts. The first murder turns out to be a hoax even though a murder weapon was found. The murder weapon, an ordinary kitchen knife, is then thrown out. Meanwhile he's still on the hook for a second murder in which no murder weapon was found. Prosecutors are then free to mischaracterize it as a weapon designed for murder. The man would rightfully demand a judgement of mistrial with prejudice for the destruction of exonerating evidence.
B
Booze
Posts: 113
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 pm

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Booze »

You put it across better than I did.

I'm not familiar with the numbering system of the alleged gas chambers at Majdanek.
Which number is for the undressing room in B41?

As far as whether or not there were zyklon chimneys for the concrete delousing structure next to B41, do we actually know one way or another, if so what evidence is that based on ?

If it is a fact that there were no chimneys (with lids) for those holes in the concrete roof slab there, then what prevented the cyanide gas from escaping during the gassings?
Is it simply a case where they dumped in an ample quantity of pellets so that there was plenty of cyanide regardless?

I'm envisioning one of the victims jumping up to grab the rebar and pulling his head through the hole for some fresh air.
B
Booze
Posts: 113
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 pm

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Booze »

Despite questioning whether the concrete delousing building next to b41 had zyklon chimneys, I do recognize the logic that if those chimneys existed they would have preserved them as part of the tour.

But the claims made are so convoluted that I'm reluctant to make any assumptions.
F
Fred Ziffel
Posts: 165
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:02 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Fred Ziffel »

the museum removed the chimneys? which building are you talking about?

as far as I know there is no closeup photo of the concrete structure roof next to B41 to make a determination there were chimneys there. when the Germans occupied Majdanek, it was a flat roof. Tis the museum that added the slanted roof since the canopy was no longer there to protect it.

here is the scoop on the other chimney.
I was talking out my behind when I said this was a roof was flat, it needs a slant to handle rain and snow run off.
B41 has a steeper roof slant
Attachments
rtrtw.JPG
rtrtw.JPG (48.85 KiB) Viewed 45 times
etyjrthyh.JPG
etyjrthyh.JPG (125.95 KiB) Viewed 45 times
eruhwtuhyh.JPG
eruhwtuhyh.JPG (150.42 KiB) Viewed 45 times
I do not believe anything one is not allowed to question
F
Fred Ziffel
Posts: 165
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:02 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Fred Ziffel »

more to look at
Attachments
y678iuy7.JPG
y678iuy7.JPG (101.3 KiB) Viewed 44 times
wtewwr6.JPG
wtewwr6.JPG (131.15 KiB) Viewed 44 times
qereqaehgyhg4r.JPG
qereqaehgyhg4r.JPG (93.31 KiB) Viewed 44 times
I do not believe anything one is not allowed to question
Online
User avatar
Stubble
Posts: 1868
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:43 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Stubble »

If I recall correctly, this structure was separated from B&Di 1 by a dog run that the Soviet enclosed and they carried the roofline over, correct?
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
F
Fred Ziffel
Posts: 165
Joined: Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:02 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Fred Ziffel »

can you restate? Not sure what you mean
I do not believe anything one is not allowed to question
Online
User avatar
Stubble
Posts: 1868
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2024 10:43 am

Re: Majdanek this and that

Post by Stubble »

The Soviet connected the buildings, and when they did, they enclosed the space between them and made the roof line of bath and disinfection 1 contiguous all the way to the end of the delousing facility. The brick structure that was under the canopy.

Correct?

'dog run' is a colloquialism for 'breeze way' or, a space between two structures. I apologize, I didn't realize how niche the colloquialism was.
were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
Post Reply