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Booze wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:06 pm The Germans had work crews in camps that are said to have fabricated gas tight doors for homicidal gas chambers. They fabricated Kula columns. And I'm sure there are other examples to point to.
But for some reason they cannot source out or fabricate a proper vent cap or chimney cap.
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The solid wood lid that the Germans allegedly used for their 'ventilation chimneys' aren't even hinged.
The wooden lid needs to be left on the roof next to the chimney during ventilation or carried down the ladder.
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Wetzelrad wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:17 am
Booze wrote: Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:12 pm I'm not familiar with the numbering system of the alleged gas chambers at Majdanek.
Which number is for the undressing room in B41?
The numbers come from the Soviet report. Mattogno neatly lists them.
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Booze
it is IV
and you have very legitimate views on the effects of the weather and the chimney design. It could have been done better for sure like the photo you submitted. I say this must have been the way it was based on the photo of the Soviet soldier holding a lid at the drying building. Also we already talked about who installed these chimneys in past postings on this Majdanek thread.

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Thanks I take credit for not letting observation die and finding other clues, but it is Eric Hunt who should get credit for the first to recognize this detail
Thanks for the translation, I had a German lady translate this for me. It is in my Majdanek Presentation. BTW are you German? Or speak and read German?
I will post my piece on Rudolf Etrich soon, please look for it.
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Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:03 am Also we already talked about who installed these chimneys in past postings on this Majdanek thread.
I'm assuming you're talking about the Polish contractor.
I just want to reiterate that it is possible that there could have been ventilation installed during the war, followed by a post war modification aimed at making the undressing room appear like a gas chamber.
It is the furthest thing from a stretch of the imagination when considering the other instances that have a strong appearance of an effort to plant evidence.

We do have another building, that had the very same chimney on the roof, once claimed to have been a gas chamber.

The removal of those chimney structures from the roof(s) post war, is a tacit admission that they are problematic.
I'd be interested to know when they were removed.
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My observation on Rudolf Etrich as stated on the Majdanek website
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there were claims of a engine running constantly to drown out the screams coming from the gas chambers behind B41

If you look at this photo taken from the guard tower at the entrance, it looks like a power generator was installed at the site of B45. To have power continuously to run things like water pumps in the delousing facilities for example, the generator engines will need to run continuously also.

remnants of the power station at Majdanek. It is the only barrack that has this concrete block on both sides of the building
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Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:56 pm Image
Definitely looks as if there is something under that tarp in the area of the dressing room.
I wonder when that tarp was in place.
The natural assumption is, that work that was underway, likely coincides with when those chimneys were removed
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Fred, there was also a wooden fence obscuring the concrete bunker.
he gas chambers’ bunker dimensions were 10.7 x 8.8 x 2.4 metres and it was fenced off with barbed wire and a wooden fence. There was a gate in the fence on the south side, wide enough to allow a truck to enter. The exit from the female bathhouse (barracks No. 42) and the doors to both chambers in the bunker were connected by a 1.5-metre-wide wooden landing. The bunker was sheltered under a roof ... this roof, however, also served as camouflage since, together with the fence, it successfully hid the chambers.
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when were the chimneys on B41 removed?> show proof

Nothing nefarious going on under that tarp in 2021, just general maintenance to preserve the building
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Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:03 am Thanks I take credit for not letting observation die and finding other clues, but it is Eric Hunt who should get credit for the first to recognize this detail
It's been a while, I may have to review that part of his video. Related to this, does the location of B41 in the camp lend itself to disinfesting incoming prisoners? With the road and gate next to it, I'm inclined to think so, but I don't even know where the nearest towns or train stations are in relation.
Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:03 am Thanks for the translation, I had a German lady translate this for me. It is in my Majdanek Presentation. BTW are you German? Or speak and read German?
I don't speak and read it but it's inevitable that I will in time.
Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:53 pm On the other side of the building, he could not possibly see anyone entering B41, but could see inmates coming out.
I would rephrase this since it comes across as if you've taken it too literally. Ettrich could see "prisoners led to the bathhouse" and disappearing inside without seeing the entrance directly.
Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:53 pm [...] the B41 shower room with the blue staining that could not have been a gas chamber for humans.
This is where I would cite the 2019 article which says as much.
Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:53 pm However, this is based on the assumption that just before "Something was spilled from a can into a chimney."
This thought is somewhat incomplete and could be phrased better.

Overall it's an excellent refutation.
Fred Ziffel wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 3:18 pm If you look at this photo taken from the guard tower at the entrance, it looks like a power generator was installed at the site of B45.
Majdanek Museum posted a very nice 1942 camp plan sketch on twitter. It depicts water lines stretching across the camp, with a recurring object along the water lines using a circle and cross symbol. One of them is between B44 and B45. Probably something to do with the water, then. Since there's so many I would expect at least one of them to have survived to today.

https://x.com/MajdanekMuseum/status/1725030940672745688
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Fred Ziffel wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:43 am when were the chimneys on B41 removed?> show proof

Nothing nefarious going on under that tarp in 2021, just general maintenance to preserve the building
It seemed reasonable they were removed being that the shafts in the ceiling dead end, but no I have no proof.
Are those chimneys still there?
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Re: Majdanek this and that

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Ok if incomplete, tell me how and I will reassess and perhaps make changes, should I also go into the reasons B41 was not a GC?

If a gassing of lice mites and fleas inside B41 was in process, they would have entered as I pictured, he would then see them enter. then see them exit out through one of two possible doors only. if the B41 room was being used as originally planned as an undressing and haircut area, Ettrich would not see them enter B41 and would see them exit. He could see a que of females waiting to enter B42 and leaving B42,

I stand by electric power station argument for the camp since someone testified engines running continuously. That would make sense for generators On the Twitter drawings, which are good ones, the buried water pipe passes by B45 and B46, but that is all
Here is another look at the area from the sky, it does not tell a whole lot
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