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[Keen]

Ok, so here's what we have so far:

Archaeological / forensic PROOF that 2.145 million jews were resettled in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves, as they knew that is impossible.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.

Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

Thus, it can be said, with 100% certainty, that the following number of jews were resettled at these 5 sites alone:

Belzec: 600,000

Chelmno: 300,000

Ponary: 70,000

Sobibor: 250,000

Treblinka II: 925,000

Total number of jews resettled in these 5 sites: 2.145 million.

Nessie, I think our paper should include something about the fact that these 2.145 million jews have been scientifically proven to have been resettled into 100 "huge mass graves." Do you agree?

[Nessie]

Ok, so here's what we have so far:

Archaeological / forensic PROOF that 2.145 million jews were resettled in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves, as they knew that is impossible.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.

Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

Thus, it can be said, with 100% certainty, that the following number of jews were resettled at these 5 sites alone:

Belzec: 600,000

Chelmno: 300,000

Ponary: 70,000

Sobibor: 250,000

Treblinka II: 925,000

Total number of jews resettled in these 5 sites: 2.145 million.

Nessie, I think our paper should include something about the fact that these 2.145 million jews have been scientifically proven to have been resettled into 100 "huge mass graves." Do you agree?

No, as killing, cremating and burying people is not resettlement. You said, "And what better way to show you my proof than co-authoring a paper with you on resettlement?". It is clear now that you lied, and you have no evidence to prove resettlement.

[Keen]

Ok, so here's what we have so far:

Archaeological / forensic PROOF that 2.145 million jews were not resettled in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves, as they knew that is impossible.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.

Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

Thus, it can be said, with 100% certainty, that the following number of jews were resettled at these 5 sites alone:

Belzec: 600,000

Chelmno: 300,000

Ponary: 70,000

Sobibor: 250,000

Treblinka II: 925,000

Total number of jews resettled in these 5 sites: 2.145 million.

Nessie, I think our paper should include something about the fact that these 2.145 million jews have been scientifically proven to have been resettled into 100 "huge mass graves." Do you agree?

No, as killing, cremating and burying people is not resettlement. You said, "And what better way to show you my proof than co-authoring a paper with you on resettlement?". It is clear now that you lied, and you have no evidence to prove resettlement.

Not true Nessie.

And is that any way to talk to your partner / co-author?

I have been thinking that we need to make our title more powerful, and came up with this:

The conclusive archaeological / forensic / scientific - PROOF - that refutes, with 100% certainty, the revisionist claim that 2.145 million jews were not resettled in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

By Keen and Nessie

Opening statement of fact:

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves, as they knew that is impossible.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.

Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

Thus, it can be said, with 100% certainty, that the following number of jews were resettled at these 5 sites alone:

Belzec: 600,000

Chelmno: 300,000

Ponary: 70,000

Sobibor: 250,000

Treblinka II: 925,000

Total number of jews resettled in these 5 sites: 2.145 million.

[Keen]

killing, cremating and burying people is not resettlement.

Even though I have proof of resettlement, what we are doing, as partners / co-authors, is presenting the conclusive archaeological / forensic / scientific - PROOF - that refutes, with 100% certainty, the revisionist claim that 2.145 million jews were not resettled in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

That does not change my pledge that If you can show me exactly where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently killed ended up, I'll show you where one jew who was sent to Treblinka II and subsequently not killed ended up.

By us two scientifically proving that 2.145 million jews were "resettled" in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II, we are proving the revisionists who say otherwise wrong.

[Stubble]

Guys, isn't this thread about the ARMREG Holocaust Summit?

Isn't there, another thread (pick one) to discuss mass graves and resettlement?

[Keen]

Guys, isn't this thread about the ARMREG Holocaust Summit?

Isn't there, another thread (pick one) to discuss mass graves and resettlement?

We are discussing the paper that we are going to co-author and present to the summit:

The conclusive archaeological / forensic / scientific - PROOF - that refutes, with 100% certainty, the revisionist claim that 2.145 million jews were not resettled in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

By Keen and Nessie

[Stubble]

Guys, isn't this thread about the ARMREG Holocaust Summit?

Isn't there, another thread (pick one) to discuss mass graves and resettlement?

We are discussing the paper that we are going to co-author and present to the summit.

Content is outside of the Summit's scope. Even if you were serious, it wouldn't be accepted.

[Keen]

Guys, isn't this thread about the ARMREG Holocaust Summit?

Isn't there, another thread (pick one) to discuss mass graves and resettlement?

We are discussing the paper that we are going to co-author and present to the summit.

Content is outside of the Summit's scope. Even if you were serious, it wouldn't be accepted.

We will be petitioning the summit to add a "holocaust and science" topic.

I'm just about ready to assign Nessie that task.

[Keen]

Nessie:

killing, cremating and burying people is not resettlement.

That's why I'm putting resettled in sneer quotes

The conclusive archaeological / forensic / scientific - PROOF - that refutes, with 100% certainty, the revisionist claim that 2.145 million jews were not "resettled" in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

By Keen and Nessie

Now we need to come up with an irrefutable opening / fundamental statement of fact - a statement of fact that can be LEGALLY established as fact in a U.S. court. (A rebuttable presumption.) I like this:

Opening statement of fact:

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the "resettled" jews, as they knew that would be impossible.

All the jews who were "resettled" in the AR camps, Chelmno and Ponary, never left those sites.

"Resettlement" is proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, "resettlement" is proven.

Thus, it can be said, with 100% certainty, that the following number of jews were "resettled" at these 5 sites alone:

Belzec: 600,000 (In 33 individual "settlements")

Chelmno: 300,000 (In 21 individual "settlements")

Ponary: 70,000 (In 7 individual "settlements")

Sobibor: 250,000 (In 24 individual "settlements")

Treblinka II: 925,000 (In 15 individual "settlements")

Total number of jews "resettled" in the 100 individual "settlements" at these 5 sites: 2.145 million.

Now let's start breaking things down and presenting our proof Nessie.

The first thing we have to do is show our conclusive proof of the number of jews that were "resettled" in each of the 100 individual "settlements."

Nessie, let's start with Belzec. Tell us: how many jews were "resettled" in each of the 33 individual "settlements" in that camp?

Just a reminder Nessie, the numbers from each of the 33 "settlements" in that camp have to add up to 600,000.

[Nessie]

Guys, isn't this thread about the ARMREG Holocaust Summit?

Isn't there, another thread (pick one) to discuss mass graves and resettlement?

We are discussing the paper that we are going to co-author and present to the summit.

Content is outside of the Summit's scope. Even if you were serious, it wouldn't be accepted.

When Kean started to discuss resettlement, started a thread on the topic and claimed to have evidence to prove resettlement, I decided to end my silence and discuss that topic with him. He has made it clear, now, that he has either lied about having evidence of resettlement, or he is refusing to present it, and it was a con to get the discussion on to his only topic, graves. I will no longer converse with him, unless he starts to produce his supposed resettlement evidence.

He has started to claim that resettlement means killing, cremating and burying people

[Keen]

When Kean started to discuss resettlement, started a thread on the topic and claimed to have evidence to prove resettlement, I decided to end my silence and discuss that topic with him. He has made it clear, now, that he has either lied about having evidence of resettlement, or he is refusing to present it

It's a process Nessie. But we have to get the numbers right first. You don't seem to understand that the more jews that we can prove were "resettled" in B, C, P, S & T, the more we undermine the revisionist claim that jews were resettled elsewhere. How can you not understand something so simple? Let's get the numbers straight first, then we present the proof. And not just "historical evidence" but scientific proof. But we have to build a solid foundation first. Get it right the first time. Go for the jugular. Rub the revisionists noses in our proof. Proof that simply cannot be doubted or denied.

At this moment, Greg Gerdes, on his https://thisisaboutscience.com/ website, has put together a "rebuttable presumption" - a "fundamental statement of fact that can be LEGALLY established as fact in a U.S. court."

OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the one hundred graves / cremation pits that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY FIVE PEOPLE.

We have to work together and get our facts straight and come up with a rebuttable presumption ourselves. Unless and until we do so, the ball remains in our court. We have to get the ball into the revisionsts court. It all starts with numbers. Correct numbers. Numbers that are irrefutable and undeniable. Numbers backed by science. We need to put together a paper that 2026 ARMREG Holocaust Summit cannot ignore.

Now stop being such a whining pussy and let's get to work.

We will start with Belzec and make a list of all the "resettled" jews that have been archaeologically proven to be in each of the 33 individual "settlements" in that camp. And remember Nessie, the numbers from each of the 33 "settlements" in that camp have to add up to 600,000.

So here we go.

Nessie; the number of jews that have been archaeologically / forensically / scientifically / conclusively proven to currently reside in Belzec "settlement" number 1 is no less than ?

[Keen]

Nessie:

Arguing that you do not believe hundreds of thousands were buried at each camp, it would be more convincing if you evidenced how many are buried there, and prove it is far fewer.

Nessie, our goal as partners and co-authors of the paper titled:

The conclusive archaeological / forensic / scientific - PROOF - that refutes, with 100% certainty, the revisionist claim that 2.145 million jews were not resettled in Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

is to refute this:

OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the one hundred graves / cremation pits that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY FIVE PEOPLE.

https://thisisaboutscience.com/

The ball is in our court.

We can't just say this:

Nessie:

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves, as they knew that is impossible.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps and Chelmno.

The geophysical survey work has identified rectangular pits with straight edges and ramps at TII.

The sheer volume of evidence for mass graves... Mass graves are proven.

By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

We have to prove that mass graves have been proven.

If we can't say how many jews have been proven to currently exist in each of the 100 "settlements" our paper will not be accepted by 2026 ARMREG Holocaust Summit. In fact, we will be laughed out of the building.

Now let's start at the begining.

How many jews are currently "residing" in "settlement" #1 at Belzec?

[Keen]

Nessie, due to your epic fail on Belzec ( https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=501 ) we are going to have to make a change to the title of our paper:

The conclusive archaeological / forensic / scientific - PROOF - that refutes, with 100% certainty, the revisionist claim that 1.545 million jews were NOT settled in Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II

Oh, and let's get our act together on Stubble's challenge: https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=353

We can't let Chelmno be a repeat of the Belzec fiasco.

[Keen]

Except you lack any eyewitness... You also lack any documentary evidence...

Nessie, pull your head out of your ass. We don't need eyewitnesses or documents when we have LITERALLY TONS of physical evidence (including millions upon millions of teeth!) to shove down the deniers throats. We know EXACTLY where 2.145 million jews were resettled. All we have to do is stop messing around and prove what we know has already been proven.

After all, how hard can it be to prove that something has been scientifically proven?

I feel that our partnership is being strained by your lack of honesty and integrity here. Come on man, let's just show these deniers that which they are denying, and then they won't have a leg to stand on.

Now let's get to work proving that it has been proven that 300,000 jews were resettled in Chelmno in 21 individual settlements.

[Wahrheitssucher]

Isn't this great? Me and Nessie are working together to prove resettlement!

No, that’s NOT what you are doing together.
I respectfully suggest to you that what you are actually doing is HELPING HER to destroy the function of:
a.) the CODOH forum in general
and
b.) this topic-thread in particular.

She has psychological issues and honesty issues. Don’t feed her!