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Treblinka/Malkinia and the Missing Witness Statements

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While staring at this image of the Malkinia transit camp (thanks Wetzelrad and Nazgul for sharing), I began to ponder intently on just how many people were ever interned or passed through here. I am counting a total of some ~60-70 very large buildings in this photo, most of which look like potential housing/barracks (which, at this size, could each hold thousands of people). That's a massive facility. More importantly: it is a known transit facility. And yet... hardly anything seems to be known or said at all about this camp. Virtually no witnesses have emerged to say anything about it's day-to-day functions, operations, or happenings. Dozens of buildings, thousands of lives transited (not killed) in and out of here... and yet the historical record has almost nothing to say.

Let's remember this photograph the next time Nessie et. al keep suggesting we should have lots of statements, counter-narratives, etc. about a place like Treblinka or other AR camps (let alone isolated labor camps further east), which were even less significant and less populated than Malkinia.

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The truth is, records and statements in general are rare for the tens of thousands of camps and collection sites for Jews (and other prisoners), and increasingly so while moving further east. Thus, when we see "missing evidence" anywhere, this is not surprising -- it's the norm, just the nature of the war and overstretched administration. This being the case, it became "open season" for propagandists and Germany's seething enemies to fill in these knowledge gaps with whatever lies and tales suited their fancy.

This is how the 'Holocaust' narrative came to be.

It's worth noting that this camp was also deconstructed and destroyed, despite having no criminal allegations against it... So much for 'they destroyed the camps to hide Holocaust evidence'. :roll:
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Excellent post Sir.

Can you link some info on this camp? I'm drawing a blank.
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Lol where did they get this from? What is the justification for there being a german transit camp there ?
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Stubble wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 2:46 am Excellent post Sir.

Can you link some info on this camp? I'm drawing a blank.
That's the key issue -- there's hardly much at all published about this camp. Wikipedia doesn't have so much as a single word to say about it. PrudentRegret has done some research, discussed on this thread (some relevant discussion starts here but the whole thread is worth reading):

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=147#p147

It's simply fascinating that so much certainly happened at this location, 'right up the road' from T-II, and yet its known history is minimal, if any at all.

bombsaway also acknowledges in the same thread that it is indeed documented as a transit camp, here, so I'm not sure what he's on about in his above comment:
bombsaway wrote:There's evidence that the camp in Malkinia was called Malkinia transit camp.
https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=198#p198

[EDIT: I'm still wrapping my head around it all but PrudentRegret also indicates in the same thread linked above that the actual Malkinia transit camp referenced in certain documents may be "in the eastern part of the town, along Nurska Street", which places it more along the main railway.]
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Callafangers wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 4:19 am
Stubble wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 2:46 am Excellent post Sir.

Can you link some info on this camp? I'm drawing a blank.
That's the key issue -- there's hardly much at all published about this camp. Wikipedia doesn't have so much as a single word to say about it. PrudentRegret has done some research, discussed on this thread (some relevant discussion starts here but the whole thread is worth reading):

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=147#p147

It's simply fascinating that so much certainly happened at this location, 'right up the road' from T-II, and yet its known history is minimal, if any at all.

bombsaway also acknowledges in the same thread that it is indeed documented as a transit camp, here, so I'm not sure what he's on about in his above comment:
bombsaway wrote:There's evidence that the camp in Malkinia was called Malkinia transit camp.
https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=198#p198

[EDIT: I'm still wrapping my head around it all but PrudentRegret also indicates in the same thread linked above that the actual Malkinia transit camp referenced in certain documents may be "in the eastern part of the town, along Nurska Street", which places it more along the main railway.]
I mean why is that image malkania transit camp? The aerial photo
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Callafangers wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 4:19 am That's the key issue -- there's hardly much at all published about this camp. Wikipedia doesn't have so much as a single word to say about it. PrudentRegret has done some research, discussed on this thread (some relevant discussion starts here but the whole thread is worth reading):

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=147#p147

It's simply fascinating that so much certainly happened at this location, 'right up the road' from T-II, and yet its known history is minimal, if any at all.

bombsaway also acknowledges in the same thread that it is indeed documented as a transit camp, here, so I'm not sure what he's on about in his above comment:
bombsaway wrote:There's evidence that the camp in Malkinia was called Malkinia transit camp.
https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=198#p198

[EDIT: I'm still wrapping my head around it all but PrudentRegret also indicates in the same thread linked above that the actual Malkinia transit camp referenced in certain documents may be "in the eastern part of the town, along Nurska Street", which places it more along the main railway.]
Indeed Malkinia was called a transit camp by an inmate travelling from there to Auschwitz. I have all the infomation at RODOH, but much is lost when the last inarnation died.
Here is an actual photo of Malkinia camp so you can compare and contrast to the map of Treblinka made at the time by Wiernik who did have the camp he was in on the Warsaw-Bialystok near where the Malkinia camps was. He later changed the rectangle format to the Treblinka shape later. (Trapezoid).

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This is the location of the Malkinia camp.
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"The Nazis created at least 44,000 camps, including ghettos and other sites of incarceration, between 1933 and 1945"

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/a ... amp-system

That number is so high, because so many camps and ghettos were temporary. They were used to imprison arrested Jews, till villages, towns and cities had been cleared. Or, they were temporary labour camps for specific purposes. The camp, near Malkinia, was likely used temporarily. Its population may have been quite static. It does not appear to have been used for the prisoner transports to TII, as witnesses from the transports do not report getting off the train during the journey, including overnight stops at Malkinia junction. Hence, the lack of evidence to establish its history.
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Where is the evidence that people on transports to TII, got off the transport at Malkinia junction/station and walked to the alleged Malkinia transit camp?

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I have never read any testimony about the transports from ghettos to TII, where a witness said they got off the train and then back on again, to get to TII.
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Nessie wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 6:59 am I have never read any testimony about the transports from ghettos to TII, where a witness said they got off the train and then back on again, to get to TII.
Most got off at labour camps for jews.
Most did not know where they were going. There is one exception when the Gestapo told Pierre Berg he was going to A. He ended up in Birkenau. He was goy.
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Nazgul wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:55 am
Nessie wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 6:59 am I have never read any testimony about the transports from ghettos to TII, where a witness said they got off the train and then back on again, to get to TII.
Most got off at labour camps for jews.
Most did not know where they were going. There is one exception when the Gestapo told Pierre Berg he was going to A. He ended up in Birkenau. He was goy.
No one on a transport to TII, for which there is testimony, recalls people getting off.

I looked at the stops on the Fplos and the history of each camp, or ghetto, was that it was temporary, used for local Jews when they were arrested and they closed before TII, sending people to the Warsaw ghetto, or to TII. None are recorded as having taken people from the TII transports. It is likely the camp north of the Malkinia junction and station, was also a short term local camp, which is why so little is known about it.

You have been banging on about people getting off for at least 2 years now, so why have you still not found any evidence of it happening?
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Callafangers wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 4:19 am
Stubble wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 2:46 am Excellent post Sir.

Can you link some info on this camp? I'm drawing a blank.
That's the key issue -- there's hardly much at all published about this camp. Wikipedia doesn't have so much as a single word to say about it. PrudentRegret has done some research, discussed on this thread (some relevant discussion starts here but the whole thread is worth reading):

https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=147#p147

It's simply fascinating that so much certainly happened at this location, 'right up the road' from T-II, and yet its known history is minimal, if any at all.

bombsaway also acknowledges in the same thread that it is indeed documented as a transit camp, here, so I'm not sure what he's on about in his above comment:
bombsaway wrote:There's evidence that the camp in Malkinia was called Malkinia transit camp.
https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=198#p198

[EDIT: I'm still wrapping my head around it all but PrudentRegret also indicates in the same thread linked above that the actual Malkinia transit camp referenced in certain documents may be "in the eastern part of the town, along Nurska Street", which places it more along the main railway.]
Well obviously no one survived then, and you've found another, more efficient pure extermination camp...

I kid, I kid

Seriously though, this highlights 2 things for me. One thing is that testimonies were selectively archived and the other is that the mundane, generally speaking, didn't make it in to the record.

Thus, we are left with tales of jews being gassed and thrown into lakes of fire, of slightly gassed with a 'delayed action' gas, and going to simply lay down in their graves.

Floors that open up to an underground 'Aktion Reinhardt' metro to a central crematoria.

An electric conveyor belt of death.

Fantastical tales of ridiculousness.

This makes the truth of what happene ever harder to find, as one must separate the truth from obvious atrocity propaganda...
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.
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