Abraham Krzepicki

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I know there is a thread open in 'debate', but, I'd like to explore things here as well.

An example of something I want to look at in this thread is a supposed photograph of Krzepicki.

It can be found in a couple of places. It is in Germar's encyclopedia, but that image appears 'touched'.

This copy appears to be more 'raw'.



I am sharing it from this website;

https://www.techpedia.pl/index.php?str=tp&no=34750

Title appears to be;

Abraham Krzepicki after escaping from Treblinka

How does this image come to us? Who is this person?

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Title appears to be;

Abraham Krzepicki after escaping from Treblinka

How does this image come to us? Who is this person?

It's included in the Yiddish notebooks from Auerbach.

Page 574 of the full document. Have fun waiting for it to download that far.

The back of the photo says "Jakób Krzepicki" and the Ringelblum Archive refers to him as "Jakub Abram Krzepicki."

Then there's another document with some Polish. It mentions a Jakób Krzepicki at the top, and Abram Krzepicki at the bottom. The middle mentions "Roza Krzepicka Palestyna Tel-Aviv."

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I'll post an annotated bibliography of what we've found on Krzepicki so far.

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Krzepicki, Abraham. “Account of a Treblinka escapee.” Warsaw Ghetto, December 1942. Originally published as Relacja uciekiniera z Treblinki. ARG II 378. Center for Jewish History. https://cbj.jhi.pl/documents/727956/0/.

This is a 16-page handwritten document written in Polish by multiple people. It contains a map and map key. The "December 1942" date is approximate, as the archive only says "after December 1942."

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Krzepicki, Abraham. “Report entitled ‘A Man Escaped from Treblinka... Conversations with a Returnee.’” Interview by Rachel Auerbach. December 26, 1942. Originally published as Relacja pt. „Człowiek uciekł z Treblinek... rozmowy z powracającym". Print. Center for Jewish History (ARG II 382). https://cbj.jhi.pl/documents/729025/519/.

This is the interview/record/account written in Yiddish by Rachel Auerbach in her notebooks. It is 35 pages long. It includes a map with no map key, as well as a photograph of "Jakob Krzepicki" and an address card of three Krzepicki family members (Jakob, Roza, Abram). The date is also approximate: "after December 26, 1942."

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Krzepicki, Abraham. “Treblinka.” Bleter Far Geszichte, 1956. Center for Jewish History (PJ.230). https://cbj.jhi.pl/documents/1298664/72/.

The is the first Yiddish publication. It is around 70 pages and includes numerous [passages in square brackets] that are editorial insertions from Rachel Auerbach. It is much longer than any of the 1942 handwritten documents, indicating Auerbach may have drastically expanded it.

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Krzepicki, Abraham. “Treblinka.” Newsletter of the Jewish Historical Institute, 1962. PL.382. https://cbj.jhi.pl/documents/721824/84/.

This is the first Polish translation of the first four chapters. It also contains editorial additions by Auerbach in the text, and some explanatory footnotes by the editors of the newspaper.

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Krzepicki, Abraham. “Eighteen Days in Treblinka.” In The Death Camp Treblinka: A Documentary, translated by Alexander Donat. Holocaust Library, 1979.

This is the English translation by Donat. It is mostly based on the 1956 Yiddish publication, and has chapter and section headings like the Yiddish version. Donat removes Auerbach's inappropriate editorializations.

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I think the publications from 1956-1979 can be safely disregarded as corrupted by Auerbach's editing.

The early documents are much shorter. Knowing what, if anything, Krzepicki actually said would require going back to those.

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Does the bit in question say to notify his relatives if he dies?

Krzepicki’s relatives to notify his fate in case of his death (Roza Krzepicka in Tel Aviv, Eretz Israel, and Abram Krzepicki in Port Louis, Mauritius).

I got this from a pdf and can link it if you'd like.

I also got a full name and DOB.

Abram Jakub Krzepicki (Praszka, 1915–Warsaw, 1943)

(Edit: I was responding to your first post when you made the second post, and I missed this information in the second post because I simply grazed it. After gleaning the second post, I see this is redundant. My apologies. Hopefully the below in the spoiler is useful).

Lookie what I got here;

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  The Roll Call.  Thus,
at 7 p.m., the work ended on my second day in Treblinka.  At 7 o’clock, a roll call was held and an
inmate count made.  Altogether, there
were about 500 of us, and a Jewish commander (kapo) was appointed to take
charge of us.  He was G. 7 an
engineer from Lodz, who was a convert to Christianity.  The roll call that day (just as on all the

Galewski...

We have confirmation it was the actor through the picture. This puts him squarely in the Wiernick Book Club. He is also in the Auerbach Dungeons & Dragons Guild.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/holocau ... GQG9Ge6XXQ

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We have confirmation it was the actor through the picture. This puts him squarely in the Wiernick Book Club. He is also in the Auerbach Dungeons & Dragons Guild.

Everyone remembers Engineer Galewski. None of them remember each other. Wiernik remembers none of them. Makes sense to me.

From Krzepicki's "abridged" version in Polish written by numerous people:

From 800 to 1,000 people are let into the bathhouse at one time. None of us laborers knew exactly how death was dealt out. But we thought we could smell a barely perceptible trace of chlorine near the bathhouse.

- page 8 (page 9 of the archive document)

Well, there you have it.

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Everyone remembers Engineer Galewski. None of them remember each other. Wiernik remembers none of them. Makes sense to me.

From Krzepicki's "abridged" version in Polish written by numerous people:

From 800 to 1,000 people are let into the bathhouse at one time. None of us laborers knew exactly how death was dealt out. But we thought we could smell a barely perceptible trace of chlorine near the bathhouse.

- page 8 (page 9 of the archive document)

Well, there you have it.

1) This is the best summary I've ever seen and with so few words. You have completely encapsulated the Treblinka II fable in less than 15 words!

2) That seals the deal. The cross contamination of the propaganda is complete.

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This is probably the sequence of events.

The 1942 Polish group writing project doesn't mention Galewski. Neither does the Wiernik collaborative writing group.

Someone (Krzywoszewski?) adds him in while expanding and typesetting Rok w Treblince.

In 1956, Auerbach expands the original 1942 documents, backwards-corroborating it with the 1944 A Year in Treblinka canonical version of the story. Rachel Auerbach was able to recover the memories of a dead person, maybe at a seance in 1956 before writing Krzepicki's first-person account.

The official Ringelblum Archive edition in English is Donat's 1979 translation of the 1956 Yiddish expanded version, which causes me to question what's in the 1942 Yiddish notebook even more.

I suppose the only way to confirm would be to have someone transcribe the 1942 Yiddish handwriting.

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The Dec '42 one is Polish, ain't it?

Never mind, I see it. Link 2 post 3.

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I missed it earlier, but the official English translation is here: https://cbj.jhi.pl/documents/1283768/271/

They refer to it as "abridged and slightly altered, unfinished testimony." In a footnote they disclose it's handwritten by two people.