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Nessie wrote: Sat Dec 27, 2025 9:25 am Stubble cannot believe or work out the evidence for mass graves at the AR camps
Says the low IQ, mentally ill, pathologically lying coward who cravenly refuses to answer these simple questions:
21 - Of the 33 alleged Belzec graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

22 - Of the 21 alleged Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

23 - Of the 7 alleged Ponary graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

24 - Of the 24 alleged Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

25 - Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

26 - Of the 100 alleged graves / cremation pits of Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

XVI - Is it - True. - or False. - that; Those who allege to have “scientifically proven” the alleged graves / cremation pits in question - refuse to accept their burden of proof and expose themselves to cross-examination under oath by Greg Gerdes in a U.S. civil court - ??

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Keen wrote: Sat Dec 27, 2025 4:24 pm Says the low IQ, mentally ill, pathologically lying coward who cravenly refuses to answer these simple questions:
Keen, posts like this (and many others of yours) are not appropriate. You have earned a 24 hour ban for insults and abuse. We want substantive discussions, not ad hominem attacks.
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https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20293#p20293
There are major timing problems with your hypothesis as well which you have not addressed even though I brought it up on page one.

In 1936, an anti-Nazi book was published with the following title:

Der Gelbe Fleck. Die Ausrottung von 500,000 Deutschen Juden

You have argued that "Ausrottung" must mean mass executions and you have cited it as evidence of at the very least the intent to murder Jews en masse. But obviously 500,000 German Jews were not being "exterminated" in 1936. So .... how would you explain a reference like the above which seems to contradict your interpretation?
In 1936, the extermination of Jews was not literally possible. By 1941, it was. Part of the evidence of the Holocaust, is evidence of opportunity. That is evidence to prove the accused had the ability and time to commit the crime they are accused of. The opportunity presented itself, or it was manufactured, and the accused took advantage of that.

For example, if someone is accused of murder, but it is found that they were already in prison for another crime, therefore they cannot have had the opportunity to commit the crime, therefore there are innocent of the accusation. If the Nazis were being accused of mass murder, using gas chambers, in 1936, when they did not have the time and ability to make mass arrests and build a suitable location for a gas chamber, then no one is going to believe that accusation. By 1941, they did have the opportunity and so did various others. Hence, the evidence that Latvians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Serbians, Poles and Ukrainians, also started to kill Jews. Hate against the Jews in Eastern Europe was that strong, many took advantage of the opportunity the Nazis presented and killed Jews. That did not happen in Western Europe. Whilst there was plenty of anti-Semitism, there were no killings. Western assistance came in the form of arrests and transportation.

In 1936, ausrotten was used to mean the rooting out of Jews. By 1941, it had also come to refer to the extermination of Jews, in particular in the East. In the West, it suited the Nazis that it still appeared to mean the rooting out, as all Westerners saw, were arrests and transportations. The Jews were being rooted out of the West and many were exterminated in the East.
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https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20309#p20309

Monsieur Sceptique
...it's obvious that in 1936 no one was exterminated...
Why is that?
...revisionists have given me alternative explanations...
Have you noticed that they give explanations, but they lack evidence? For example, they explain that instead of being gassed, millions of Jews were resettled, but they then fail to evidence that happening, especially in 1944-5.
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Nessie wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:51 am
In 1936, the extermination of Jews was not literally possible.
If Jews were claiming in 1936 that 500,000 German Jews were being "exterminated" and we know these Jews were not being executed, then this disproves your interpretation and such phrases cannot be cited as evidence of murder.
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Archie wrote: Sat Dec 27, 2025 7:57 pm
Keen wrote: Sat Dec 27, 2025 4:24 pm Says the low IQ, mentally ill, pathologically lying coward who cravenly refuses to answer these simple questions:
Keen, posts like this (and many others of yours) are not appropriate. You have earned a 24 hour ban for insults and abuse. We want substantive discussions, not ad hominem attacks.
Are you trying to suggest that this statement:
Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 3:25 am

Stubble cannot believe or work out the evidence for mass graves at the AR camps
is not insulting to Stubble and was not made by someone who is a mentally ill pathological liar who cravenly dodges with impunity?

Why aren't you standing up for Stubble when he is insulted in this manner?

Oh, that's right, it's because you and your ilk are substantially no different than Nesserto.

Carry on.
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Nessie wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:51 am That is evidence to prove the accused had the ability and time to commit the crime they are accused of.
Proving that they had the ability and the time not only doesn't prove that they commited the crime, it's not even evidence that they did. Only a delustional moron could and would pretent such a thing.
OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

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Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.

If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN. Ergo:

The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

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Archie wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2025 7:17 pm
Nessie wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:51 am
In 1936, the extermination of Jews was not literally possible.
If Jews were claiming in 1936 that 500,000 German Jews were being "exterminated" and we know these Jews were not being executed, then this disproves your interpretation and such phrases cannot be cited as evidence of murder.
We also know that dead jews were not being transported via train to the fraudulently alleged "pure exterminaton centers" like the retarded "revisionists" pretent actually happened.
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Archie wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2025 7:17 pm
Nessie wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:51 am
In 1936, the extermination of Jews was not literally possible.
If Jews were claiming in 1936 that 500,000 German Jews were being "exterminated" and we know these Jews were not being executed, then this disproves your interpretation and such phrases cannot be cited as evidence of murder.
Correct, it means in 1936, they meant root out, it is not evidence of murder. By 1941, when mass shootings that many so-called revisionists accept happened, and it was because Jews were partisans, as confirmed by Himmler's diary note of December 1941,

https://holocausthistory.site/1941-12-1 ... partisans/

“Jewish Question. | To be exterminated as partisans.”

That ausrotten, in the context of Jews in the East, meant extermination and it is evidence of murder.
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https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20353#p20353

Wetzelrad
Revisionists sometimes disagree. So what? It is of little importance.
Holocaust revisionists come up with all sorts of incompatible, competing and contradictory theories as to what happened. For example, the Leichenkellers were delousing chambers, when they could not have been used for gassings, due to the low residues left.

That they cannot reach any sort of consensus, about the history of each death camp and what really happened there, proves they are failed, so-called revisionists. None of them can produce sufficient evidence, to get other so-called revisionists to agree with them.

It is important to note how divided so-called revisionists are and why that is. It speaks to their failure to produce a revised history, meaning the present history stands.
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Monsieur Sceptique;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20362#p20362
This is the case with all historical debates. There is a debate about the Holocaust between functionalists and intentionalists. Not all historians agree on everything, and you know what? That's actually quite normal and healthy, because debate motivates people to promote their own sides and schools of thought, and therefore motivates them to find answers and arguments. So normally, debates should be protected, but I get the impression that states don't care about the truth.
The debate between functionalists and intentionalists, is between two groups who can bring evidence to the debate, whereby both produce chronologies of what took place. That is a normal, evidenced based debate that needs to be taught and encouraged.

The debate between historians and so-called revisionists, who are really deniers, is between two groups, only one of which can bring evidence to the debate and produce a chronology of what took place. So-called revisionism is really denial, as all it does is deny certain key events, such as mass gassings, whilst failing to evidence what did happen. That is not a healthy debate, as it encourages acceptance of unevidenced beliefs and promotes bizarre, hate driven conspiracies. Those who get involved with Holocaust so-called revisionism don't care about the truth, because they abandon normal standards of evidenced, to prop up their beliefs.
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Nessie wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2025 9:50 am So-called revisionism is really denial. Those who get involved with Holocaust so-called revisionism don't care about the truth, because they abandon normal standards of evidenced, to prop up their beliefs.
Says the denier / liar who cravenly denies a truth that it runs from every minute of its life.

The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.
OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

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Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.

If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN. Ergo:

The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

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What is Nesserto waiting for?

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Callafangers, quoting Himmler;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20384#p20384
If you once again set the European peoples against each other in a war, it will not mean the extermination [Ausrottung] of the German people, but the extermination [Ausrottung] of the Jews.
Is Himmler not saying that instead of the extermination of the German's it will be the extermination of the Jews and by that he means death. Otherwise, if he meant expulsion, is he really arguing a war would result in Germans being expelled from Germany? I do not believe that. I saw he is referring to extermination meaning deaths.
In my opinion, even as Germans, we are not entitled to let the hate-filled avengers grow up so that our children and grandchildren will have to deal with them because we, the fathers or grandfathers, were too weak and too cowardly to allow them to survive.
That is an out and out threat to kill, and not a declaration about a resettlement policy. Again, here;
I did not consider myself entitled - this concerns Jewish women and children - to let the children grow up to be avengers who would then kill our fathers and our grandchildren. I would have considered that cowardly. Consequently, the question was resolved without compromise.
Then Himmler is more specific about the movement of Jews;
we are initially bringing 100,000, and later another 100,000, male Jews from Hungary into concentration camps, with whom we are building underground factories. But not one of them comes into the field of vision of the German people.
That is not resettlement, it is slave labour. Then there are the ghettos, which are being cleared;
...the General Government if we had not solved the Jewish question there, if the ghetto in Lublin still existed and the huge ghetto with 500,000 people in Warsaw, the clearing of which, gentlemen, cost us five weeks of street fighting last year with armored cars and with all weapons...
This is not a resettlement policy. It is the mass movement of Jews to labour camps, as countries are being cleared of Jews, many of whom had been forced into ghettos. Considering the Jewish population of Hungary, and in the Lublin and Warsaw ghettos, to only account for 200,000 males from Hungary, is not suggestive of a resettlement policy. Where did the Jews from Lublin and Warsaw go?

Himmler was speaking in May 1944. If the millions of Jews arrested up to that point, were still alive, how could Warsaw and Lublin be cleared? How can he only account for a small proportion of Hungarian Jews? Where had the Jews from Warsaw and Lublin gone? He is describing a population that is getting smaller and smaller, as it is being exterminated. That is not resettlement.
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Nessie wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2025 8:17 am He is describing a population that is getting smaller and smaller, as it is being exterminated. That is not resettlement.
No matter how hard low IQ delusional freaks like you pretend otherwise, the 2.145 million jews alleged to have been "exterminated" at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II were not killed at those sites. The "pure extermination center" myth has been exposed as the physically impossible big-lie that it is. Not only exposed, but PROVEN.

No matter how much you jump up and down and scream and spit at your computer, you cannot change this fact:

If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

You are the laughing stock of this forum Roberto. Not a day goes by that you don't prove to the world what a delusional retarded freak you are. It's like you are trying to convince the world that Santa exsits. Nothing you can do or say can overcome the fact that it has been proven that jews were not killed en mass at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. Now fly into another rage and spit and scream at your computer again Roberta. That will surely change the minds of us here laughing at you.

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The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.
OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

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Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.

http://thisisaboutscience.com/
If the physical evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then that claim is false.
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Archie cherry picks;

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20402#p20402
You are making the assumption that "killing women and children" refers to a universal extermination order to kill all Jews, but other statements by Himmler strongly contradict that interpretation. This speech, for example.
Whenever I was forced to take steps against the partisans and Jewish commissars in some village – I’ll say it for the information of this group only – I made it a point to give the order to kill the women and children of these partisans and commissars. I would have been a weakling and I would be committing a crime against our descendants if I allowed the hate-filled sons of the subhumans we have liquidated in this struggle of humanity against subhumanity to grow up. (Himmler speech, 16 Dec 1943)
How do you square the narrow scope above with your belief in a blanket extermination order?
Himmler also said, December 1941;

https://holocausthistory.site/1941-12-1 ... partisans/

“Jewish Question. | To be exterminated as partisans.”

Now, some context;

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org ... rt101.html

"Sonderkommando 4a in collaboration with Einsatzgruppe HQ and two Kommandos of police regiment South, executed 33,771 Jews in Kiev on September 29 and 30, 1941."

"The Kommandos continued the liberation of the area from Jews and Communist elements. In the period covered by the report, the towns of Nikolayev and Kherson in particular were freed of Jews. Remaining officials there were appropriately treated. From September 16 to 30, 22,467 Jews and Communists were executed. Total number 35,782."

https://holocausthistory.site/1942-12-2 ... ur-months/

"On December 29, 1942, Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler delivered a report to Adolf Hitler, mentioning the execution of 363,211 Jews within only four months, between August and November of that year."

"2. Bandit helpers and suspects:
a) Arrested 1343 3078 8337 3795 16553
b) Executed 1198 3020 6333 3706 14257
c) Jews executed 31246 165282 95735 70948 363211"

In Eastern Europe, partisans, Communists and Jews, were being mass executed.
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