Best case for the Holocaust, in short form.

[Nessie]

Archie requests, "what I would really like to see is an attempt from either of them to put forth their best case for the Holocaust in long form".

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20785#p20785

I take that to mean an evidenced, chronological history of what happened to the Jews in occupied Europe, 1939-45. That is quite the undertaking, which historians spend years, if not decades, gathering evidence and writing.

Bombsaway responded by saying,

"I think my outline would be to go through the strongest pieces of evidence
And then a general description of the documentary evidence, and why that would be difficult to fabricate
Then the same for witness evidence and physical evidence."

That is exactly what a genuine historical or criminal investigator would do, and it is exactly what so-called revisionists cannot do. He goes on to say.

"Then I would talk about the lack of a viable alternative hypothesis, would describe why the revisionist one is not viable."

Not only do so-called revisionist fail to provide a viable alternative history, that evidences instead of being murdered in gas chambers and by shooting, millions of Jews remained alive in the camps and ghettos till 1945, they also fail to provide any evidence of the mass conspiracy required to hide the evidence of those Jews still being alive 1945.

That is the short form of the best case for the Holocaust. The mass murders of millions of Jews is evidenced to have happened and no viable alternative has been evidenced. Archie will never argue against that, as he cannot. Instead, he wants to be presented with evidence from eyewitnesses, documents etc, that he already had his excuses for dismissing, claiming innocent explanations for documents and the witnesses lied.

[Keen]

The mass murders of millions of Jews is evidenced to have happened

Your so-called "evidence" is not clear, credible or convincing and has no evidentiary value what-so-ever.

The so-called "evidence" that you proffer is equal to the "evidence" that Santa exists. It does nothing to diminish the reasonable doubt about the fraudulently alleged "pure extermination centers."

IF your so-called "evidence" had any evidentiary value at all, one would be able to answer the following questions with it:

1 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 33 alleged Belzec graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

2 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 21 alleged Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

3 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 7 alleged Ponary graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

4 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 24 alleged Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

5 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

6 - List all of the Belzec graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

7 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

8 - List all of the Ponary graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

9 - List all of the Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

10 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove actually exist and currently contain at least an iota of human remains: __?__.

11 - List all of the Belzec graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

12 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

13 - List all of the Ponary graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

14 - List all of the Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

15 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 2 human beings: __?__.

16 - List all of the Belzec graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

17 - List all of the Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

18 - List all of the Ponary graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

19 - List all of the Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

20 - List all of the Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question that you can conclusively prove currently contain the remains of at least 21 human beings: __?__.

21 - Of the 33 alleged Belzec graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

22 - Of the 21 alleged Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

23 - Of the 7 alleged Ponary graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

24 - Of the 24 alleged Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

25 - Of the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

26 - Of the 100 alleged graves / cremation pits of Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II in question - the one that you can conclusively prove currently contains the most human remains is number: __?__.

No viable alternative has been evidenced.

None is needed. Not only is the burden of proof on you, which you cravenly run away from, but the physical evidence for the murder and burial of 2.145 million jews and thousands and thousands of non jews in 100 "huge mass graves" at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II is virtually non existent - a fact that you cravenly and consistantly deny and lie about. "Grave" after "grave" after "grave" has been proven to contain little or no human remains, but you lack the courage, integrity and character to admit it. But of course the biggest reason you cravenly refuse to admit the truth is because of your low IQ and mental illness.

The best case for the "Pure Extermination Centers" - "in short form" - is this here:



And the Sobibor "holocaust" specifically is this here:

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=19979#p19979

If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have

actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

[Keen]

The best case for the Auschwitz "holocaust" - "in short form" - is this:

https://youtu.be/0jl2w3xYFHQ

and this:

https://www.tracesofwar.com/upload/2065230903181700.JPG

[Archie]

Archie requests, "what I would really like to see is an attempt from either of them to put forth their best case for the Holocaust in long form".

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=20785#p20785

I take that to mean an evidenced, chronological history of what happened to the Jews in occupied Europe, 1939-45. That is quite the undertaking, which historians spend years, if not decades, gathering evidence and writing.

See the description of the challenge below. I will personally invite you to submit an essay (just post it here in Quarantine). As long as it meets the basic guidelines it will be posted there in the sticky.

https://codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=686

I don't know where you are getting this idea that I was requesting a thousand-page comprehensive history of Jews in Europe during the war. Lol. Stop being ridiculous. Sounds like you are just making up excuses not to do it. You don't need to write an extensive narrative history or present every possible argument. Just give your best arguments, something sufficient to convince people that the Holocaust is true.

Given that you have written literally millions of words on the forums over the years, I really don't get why you would decline the opportunity to have your best material stickied at the top of the Debate forum.

[Nessie]

A long form essay would be the short form with more words.

There is evidence to support mass gassings and shootings took place. There is no evidence of any alternative and millions of Jews still alive in 1945.

[HansHill]

A long form essay would be the short form with more words.

Spoken like a true sage.

This is the perfect opportunity to get all your best arguments together in one place, all those million words scattered to the winds of the internet, crystalized into one tome of wisdom. Imagine being able to link audiences to your own magnum opus, rather than to scattered HC blog posts?

I would get busy if I were you.

[Nessie]

A long form essay would be the short form with more words.

Spoken like a true sage.

This is the perfect opportunity to get all your best arguments together in one place, all those million words scattered to the winds of the internet, crystalized into one tome of wisdom. Imagine being able to link audiences to your own magnum opus, rather than to scattered HC blog posts?

I would get busy if I were you.

History is not proven by argument and is not about what did not happen. Only so-called Holocaust revisionists, who think that to revise history is to deny it happened, think that history can be argued.

[Keen]

There is evidence to support mass gassings and shootings took place. There is no evidence of any alternative and millions of Jews still alive in 1945.

Liar:

If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have

actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

[Keen]

Best case for the Treblnka "holocaust," in short form:

This is "huge mass grave #F16:



There is NOTHING there but some trash and few rocks.

No human remains what-so-ever.

NONE.

There are 14 other fraudulently alleged "huge mass graves" alleged to contain the remains of 925,000 jews within the boundary of Treblinka II.

To put this nonsense in perspective, that is the equivelant of every man, women and child living in Wyoming in 2025, plus 57.42 percent, buried in the other 14 "huge mass graves." That is the remains of over 66,000 jews in each alleged "huge mass grave."

Yet Roberto cannot show us proof that even one of those remaining 14 "huge mass graves" contain so-much-as 2 people.

[Keen]

History is not proven by argument and is not about what did not happen.

We know what did not happen at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II.

And so do you.

But you lack the courage, integrity and character to admit it.

And the mental health.