A close up of the Wiernik model:
Jankiel Wiernik testifies in the Eichmann trial in 1961 in Jerusalem.
This map was drawn and used as evidence against the Lager- Kommandant Franz Stangl, during the Second Treblinka Trial in 1970.
Stangl declared this plan to be "absolutely correct".
http://www.deathcamps.org/treblinka/pic/bmap6.jpg
Right.pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Tue Feb 03, 2026 1:11 am After the 1945 Polish investigation stated "no collective graves were found," it's a bit of a mystery why CSC thought there would be mass graves at all.
Yes, but Colls had "science" on her side. So she was able to make zero mass graves (which is equal to 6 non-existent mass graves) into 15 "scientifically proven" mass graves.
The 1945 Polish investigation did not have the archaeological expertise, equipment, time or resources, to excavate the site in such a way, they could identify what was ground that had never been dug into, what had been dug into and contained remains and what was likely caused by the grave robbers. Instead, they reported what they did find, which is an area of 2 hectares, that smelled and was littered with decomposing and cremated remains, at one point which went 7m deep before they stopped finding remains. They reported finding no mass graves, meaning they found no pits full of corpses, which indicated the extent to which the Nazis went, to exhume and cremate. That corroborated the witness claims about months of burning and pyres.pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Tue Feb 03, 2026 1:11 am After the 1945 Polish investigation stated "no collective graves were found," it's a bit of a mystery why CSC thought there would be mass graves at all.
Who gave her the idea there would be anything to find?
As an experiment, ask people to draw a plan of their old school, from memory, locating the buildings and classrooms and outside space such as playgrounds. You will get all sorts of maps, from the dreadful, to well remembered and drawn.Regardless, here are a couple other trial maps, both from the Kurt Franz trial.
It's said Franz drew this one while awaiting trial. (Thanks to Wetzelrad for finding a good copy of it.)
Two points:
1. Franz drew the wrong shape of the Treblinka camp. Apparently, the Rectangle Treblinka maps were based on "hearsay, rumors, memory disorders, PTSD," so Franz drew a map of Treblinka based on rumors he heard circulating around the Warsaw Ghetto?
Is 11, 12 and 13 not the mass graves in that plan? That is the part of the camp the witnesses located the main mass graves.2. Zero mass graves.
Image originally from here but can't be embedded.
This is a map supposedly drawn by a former inmate for that same trial. It's reproduced in Chad Gibbs's dissertation "Against that Darkness." I applied some photo restoration to it, but his dissertation is online if anyone wants to see the original scan.
What are you waiting for roberta?A - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each alleged graves / cremation pit in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least 2 people. (That is less than one tenth of one one thousandth of one percent of the alleged mass murder.)
http://thisisaboutscience.com/
Which the lying pig refers to as "possible grave sites" and "probable burial / cremation pits"
Nesserto, is it - True. - or - False. - that; Non-nefarious diggings for such things as garbage pits, cellars, wells, latrines, septic pits, etc. - were dug at Treblinka II - ??
Nesserto's answer:
True
Also Nesserto:
Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits, G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54 and that they exist. But it does not prove that those pits contain human remains.
There is more evidence, and with stronger evidentiary value, that there are 6 "huge mass graves" within the boundary of Treblinka II (from trials) than there is evidence for the existence of 15 "sicentifically proven huge mass graves" within the boundary of Treblinka II. (As is fraudulently alleged by CSC.)OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.
Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.
Foundational legal question: Is it reasonable to doubt that the remains of 2.145 million Jews are currently buried in the 100 specifically identified locations in question - Yes. - or - No. - ??
Foundational legal principles that easily expose this transparent archaeological fraud: BURDEN OF PRODUCTION, BURDEN OF PERSUASION & BURDEN OF PROOF.
http://thisisaboutscience.com/
As an experiment, bet someone one thousand dollars that they cannot prove that there isn't an elephant in their basement. Put the bet in writing, with the caveat that, if there is any disagreement in who lost the bet, they would both agree to settle the matter in court.
roberta,Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits, G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54 and that they exist. But it does not prove that those pits contain human remains.
I was going to respond to this "in the style of Nessie," but I will clarify instead.Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 03, 2026 1:45 pmThe 1945 Polish investigation did not have the archaeological expertise, equipment, time or resources, to excavate the site in such a way, they could identify what was ground that had never been dug into, what had been dug into and contained remains and what was likely caused by the grave robbers. Instead, they reported what they did find, which is an area of 2 hectares, that smelled and was littered with decomposing and cremated remains, at one point which went 7m deep before they stopped finding remains. They reported finding no mass graves, meaning they found no pits full of corpses, which indicated the extent to which the Nazis went, to exhume and cremate. That corroborated the witness claims about months of burning and pyres.pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Tue Feb 03, 2026 1:11 am After the 1945 Polish investigation stated "no collective graves were found," it's a bit of a mystery why CSC thought there would be mass graves at all.
Who gave her the idea there would be anything to find?
In 2011, with more resources and expertise, C S-C was able to identify specific pits.
As an experiment, ask people to draw a plan of their old school, from memory, locating the buildings and classrooms and outside space such as playgrounds. You will get all sorts of maps, from the dreadful, to well remembered and drawn.Regardless, here are a couple other trial maps, both from the Kurt Franz trial.
It's said Franz drew this one while awaiting trial. (Thanks to Wetzelrad for finding a good copy of it.)
Two points:
1. Franz drew the wrong shape of the Treblinka camp. Apparently, the Rectangle Treblinka maps were based on "hearsay, rumors, memory disorders, PTSD," so Franz drew a map of Treblinka based on rumors he heard circulating around the Warsaw Ghetto?
Is 11, 12 and 13 not the mass graves in that plan? That is the part of the camp the witnesses located the main mass graves.2. Zero mass graves.
Image originally from here but can't be embedded.
This is a map supposedly drawn by a former inmate for that same trial. It's reproduced in Chad Gibbs's dissertation "Against that Darkness." I applied some photo restoration to it, but his dissertation is online if anyone wants to see the original scan.
Mass graves.
Yes, I checked. And this is what I found:
