Stubble;
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Another thing I'm not going to just let slide is the absolute miscarriage of my education on the subject by the main stream. I was shown the victims of the Nordhausen Bombing Raid in a textbook as 'proof of the nazi extermination of 6,000,000 jews and 5,000,000 others'. I was shown film of the showers at Majdanek (has anybody ever claimed anybody was gassed in the shower room at Majdanek Nick) as 'proof of the nazi extermination of 6,000,000 jews and 5,000,000 others'. I was shown film of bodies being bulldozed into mass graves a Bergen Belsen (Nick, are you going to claim that the Germans 'systematically exterminated' the internees at Bergen Belsen? ) as 'proof of the nazi plan to exterminate 6,000,000 jews and 5,000,000 others'.
I am going to say that is a misrepresentation of the evidence Stubble was provided, based on how often he misrepresents the evidence I have provided him.
He may well have been shown victims of a bombing raid and the corpses being bulldozed into mass graves at Bergen-Belsen, as evidence of what happened during the Holocaust, with Jews used as forced labourers and being left by SS camp staff to starve to death at the end of the war. I doubt it was actually presented as proof of the plan to exterminate millions of Jews. Stubble so often misrepresents and confuses himself over the evidence, I think he did not understand the evidence he was provided. His education was not a "miscarriage", he just did not understand his teacher.
An example of his misrepresentation;
I must mention some sense of irony in the 'wooden doors were used for the pyres' bit as it would appear not just the holocaust at Auschwitz is dependent on wooden doors, but now Aktion 1005vas well
No one anywhere, has suggested the wooden gas chamber doors were used for the pyres. That is a made up, strawman, misrepresentation.
Anecdotal, often a single prisoner will kick out a steel door. This is done by putting ones back against it and pounding ones heel into it at about mid calf level on the door. Steel doors in a steel frame. 1 guy. 1.
I am calling that out as made up. To claim it is "often" would mean it would not need to be anecdotal, he should be able to easily provide multiple examples. The reinforced delousing chamber doors at A-B and the steel doors at the AR camps were solid enough that despite reported prisoner attempts to break through and damage inflicted, they were soon over come by the HCN and none succeeded in breaking out. A document recorded an order for 210 anchors for gas tight doors, showing the reinforcement work undertaken. Whilst Stubble is correct about the method he describes as the best to try and force open a door, it will only work on weaker doors, with stronger people. A cell door would resist a prisoner for long enough that if they were being gassed, they could not break it down.
If you don't make an effort to correct the record and to STOP the mistelling of history, you can look forward to MANY others like me. I stand where I stand strictly because I was lied to from the 4th grade to the 12th grade. Year after year, lie after lie, presented to me by people I trusted and did not question.
The mis-telling of history, is from the Holocaust denier/revisionists, not the historians. Stubble was not being lied to, he has fallen down a conspiracy theorist rabbit hole of his own making, whereby he distorts what he has been told and shown.
