The bombsaway, nicky & roberto vs Keen debate on the resettlement issue

[Keen]

bombsaway:

I don't think resettlement happened. [At Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II.]

This is why I think you guys are deranged.

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Well then bombsaway, to begin this debate, please do tell us what happened to the jews that were sent to those 5 camps.

And just a reminder of what your partners have said about this issue:

roberta:

The Nazis were not trying to magically disappear the corpses and the graves.

All the mass graves dug by the Nazis, and the corpses they cremated, are still at the AR camps.

Mass graves are proven. By all normal standards of evidencing, they are proven.

Proof, from multiple sources of corroborating evidence, has been produced.

I can point to them in the ground.

nicky:

Everyone making a claim has to substantiate it.

[HansHill]

This should be a good debate if all parties turn up

[Keen]

This should be a good debate if all parties turn up

roberto will cravenly run from any debate using his real name because he is terrified that if he did so, Mr. Gerdes would show up and detroy him again, like he has done so many times in the past. (That is why he has to hide behind his "nessie" alias.)

And actually, all the mentally ill HC cult members are challenged to join in and debate me here.

[Keen]

roberto / nessie:

Millions were arrested and killed.

Resettlement was just a fog screen created by the Nazis, to hide a genocide.

Mass graves, the pyres and the numbers killed are evidence[d] by eyewitnesses, documents and the physical remains.

The buried remains have not been utterly eradicated.

Keen does not believe they ended up dead and buried.

Nick:

Are you seriously going to say that NO physical evidence of burnt remains, mass graves was found in the 1940s?

bombsaway:

They went to the camps. There they were killed.

The physical evidence shows that there was mass burial.

During my time here I've mostly spent looking inward at the orthodox narrative. It's like pulling teeth getting you guys to talk about what happened.

Let's talk boys / girls.

What are you waiting for?

What are you so afraid of?

[bombsaway]

Why don't you start this out by giving me your thesis on what happened with resettlement?

I don't think you ever will, nor have you faintest intention of doing so. This is a bad faith offer, which is why I won't be responding further - because I have a strong idea about who you are. If you prove me wrong, and actually do lay out in detail what you think happened to the resettled Jews between 1942-1944 (the most important period), I'll engage.

[Keen]

I don't think resettlement happened.

They went to the camps. There they were killed.

The physical evidence shows that there was mass burial.

Nick:

Everyone making a claim has to substantiate it.

So will bombsaway substantiate his claim, or cravenly run away like the lying coward that he is?

bombsaway:

I won't be responding further

[Keen]

Stubble:

I have no doubt, given time, either of us could find these jews. Problem is, you aren't, and haven't been, looking.

Nick Terry:

Incorrect. I've been looking for over a quarter of a century, one way or another.

bombsaway, why is nick looking for jews when you and roberto allege to know exactly where they are?

Why hasn't he just asked the two of you to show him?

bombsaway:

I don't think resettlement happened. [At Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II.]

This is why I think you guys are deranged.

Britannica Dictionary definition of DERANGED

unable to think or act in a normal or logical way especially because of severe mental illness : crazy or insane

bombsaway, do you think it's normal or logical to look for something for 25 years when you know where what your looking for is? Doesn't that seem a bit crazy or insane to you? If someone knew that thier wallet was in thier pants pocket hanging on a nail in their closet, but proceeded to look around their house for their wallet for 25 minnutes anyway, wouldn't that be a sign that they were deranged?

bombsaway, have you asked roberto to show you the mass graves that he alleges he "can point to in the ground"?

Yes. - or - No. - ??

[Keen]

bombsaway:

I think you guys are deranged.

Says the mentally ill, pathetic, cowardly cult member who cannot substantiate a fraction of the so-called "physical evidence" for his unsubstantiated allegations that he alleges support his "I don't think resettlement happened" beliefs.

bombsaway:

They went to the camps. There they were killed.

The physical evidence shows that there was mass burial.

nicky:

Everyone making a claim has to substantiate it.

Foundational legal principles that easily expose the HC cult members lies:

BURDEN OF PRODUCTION, BURDEN OF PERSUASION & BURDEN OF PROOF.

[Keen]

Why don't you start this out by giving me your thesis on what happened with resettlement? ...If you prove me wrong..., I'll engage.

OK, but first:

Martin Sandberger, former SS member and head of various internal security departments, including Sonderkommando 1a of Einsatzgruppe A, as well as the Security Police and the SD:

We never intended to harm the Jews who were to be relocated east

Is there evidence that the Germans transited jews from the west to the east?

Is it - True. - or - False. - that; it was once the official story that every single person transited to Treblinka II, other than a handfull of alleged "escapees" - were murdered and buried in "huge mass graves" within the boundary of the camp - ??

Is there evidence that there were jews who were transited to Treblinka II and subsequently transited elsewhere?

[Keen]

what you think happened to the resettled Jews between 1942-1944

To make this easier, let's just focus on the jews that were transited to Treblkinka II.

You have said:

They went to the camps. There they were killed.

The physical evidence shows that there was mass burial.

About this alleged "physical evidence" that you allege "shows that there was mass burial" - how much of it was it found in the "6 huge mass graves" alleged by the "eyewitness" Wiernik?



And how much of it was it found in the "6huge mass graves" alleged by the "eyewitness" Franz Stangl?



BTW bombsaway, which one of the above has been proven to be the correct representation of the "6 huge mass graves" Treblinka II?