The shrunken heads from Buchenwald, Grok says they're legit

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Suspicious of EoZ?

The guy is solid as a rock.

Joe is solid too.

Can't we all agree that shrunken heads are both fake, and gay?

[Joe Splink]

You're upset that I ruined your great discovery,

No, it wasn't my discovery. It was posted on scrapbookpages blog years ago. I did investigate and confirm it to my satisfaction. It's obvious from the pics. Beyond that, briefly, the photo:

shows a group of children with their nurse Luba Trysz ... who wrote a book about it. The children became known as the diamond children as their parents were diamond merchants from Amsterdam. They all went to Amsterdam after the war and met the Queen, and they held reunions for years afterward. I emailed the Anne Frank center in Amsterdam and asked them about the photo, they said they'd never seen it and had no comment.

In addition submitted the photos to Grok image ID, unnamed, and it verified that both photos were of Anne Frank. But for me the clincher was this vid I made showing the photos overlaid, starting with the Belsen photo opaque, and then making the Belsen photo more and more transparent to reveal the stock photo. The photos are obviously of the same girl.
https://seed126.bitchute.com/sxqLgNU13e ... K5oXRm.mp4

which was frankly more embarrassing than convincing
To me, this shows a strong commitment to the hoax, ridicule the denier, something a Jew would say. I could be wrong about Zyclone of course, but statements like this convi.. .... make me suspicious .

I find it more interesting than a nearly forgotten oddity like the shrunken heads lie itself.
What you wrote was - "It is now conceded that these [Jivaro] shrunken heads were "not part of any systematic or centralized Nazi extermination program," - which is exactly the opposite of what my initial post stated and documented, that is, the shrunken head hoax HAS NOT BEEN CONCEDED IN MAINSTREAM HOAX SCHOLARSHIP. You not only contradicted my post, but found it uninteresting to boot!
So, OK, I could be wrong .... but ....

[Eye of Zyclone]

Can't we all agree that shrunken heads are both fake, and gay?

Yes, we can. But it seems that someone is too full of himself and immature to tolerate any disagreement over a thing so trivial and blatantly false as the ridiculous Anne Frank stuff above. Given that it seems to be a time for suspicion, I now suspect him of trying to make us look like idiots with this photographic farce.

I find it more interesting than a nearly forgotten oddity like the shrunken heads lie itself.
What you wrote was - "It is now conceded that these [Jivaro] shrunken heads were "not part of any systematic or centralized Nazi extermination program," - which is exactly the opposite of what my initial post stated and documented

No offense intended, but you seem too dumb to understand anything.

[Eye of Zyclone]

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Can't we all agree that shrunken heads are both fake, and gay?

Yes, we can. But it seems that someone is too full of himself and immature to tolerate any disagreement over a thing so trivial and blatantly false as the ridiculous Anne Frank stuff above. Given that it seems to be a time for suspicion, I now suspect him of trying to make us look like idiots with this photographic farce.

I mean, I can't prove it isn't the young girl. I also must admit that I'd find irony if it was. Unfortunately, the evidence for it being Anne Frank is insufficient.

We have a thread for talking about that though,and, it isn't this one.

The memes in your other comment after the one I'm quoting are great by the way. I had no idea the shrunken head had changed its base, grown more hair, and decided to grow a mustache. That's hilarious.

The magical morphing lampshade is almost just as funny.

[Wetzelrad]

Personally I see this as an advantage. It's absolutely true that there are still people who believe in the shrunken heads, the lampshades, the handbags, the soap, and the gas chambers, and it is very much to our advantage that they are all lumped in together as one mass of idiots.

Sure, a DNA test could prove the heads originate from South America, but why stop them now? Let them dig the hole deeper. Let us be the side of common sense.

[Eye of Zyclone]

Personally I see this as an advantage. It's absolutely true that there are still people who believe in the shrunken heads, the lampshades, the handbags, the soap, and the gas chambers, and it is very much to our advantage that they are all lumped in together as one mass of idiots.

My opinion too...


(read "pedal" instead of "peddle")

Sure, a DNA test could prove the heads originate from South America, but why stop them now? Let them dig the hole deeper. Let us be the side of common sense.

It wouldn't prove they originate from South America if those artefacts were the shrunken heads of White men like European explorers who were killed by Jivaros in South America. During WW1, a shrunken head was used for anti-German propaganda purposes and it was claimed that the head of a German scientist had been shrunken in Ecuador. There used to be an extensive trade of shrunken heads from South America.

[Eye of Zyclone]

Can't we all agree that shrunken heads are both fake, and gay?

Yes, we can. But it seems that someone is too full of himself and immature to tolerate any disagreement over a thing so trivial and blatantly false as the ridiculous Anne Frank stuff above. Given that it seems to be a time for suspicion, I now suspect him of trying to make us look like idiots with this photographic farce.

I mean, I can't prove it isn't the young girl. I also must admit that I'd find irony if it was. Unfortunately, the evidence for it being Anne Frank is insufficient.

Give me a black wig and I'll probably look more like Anne Frank than the Jewish girl in the bottom picture.

[Stubble]

Yes, we can. But it seems that someone is too full of himself and immature to tolerate any disagreement over a thing so trivial and blatantly false as the ridiculous Anne Frank stuff above. Given that it seems to be a time for suspicion, I now suspect him of trying to make us look like idiots with this photographic farce.

I mean, I can't prove it isn't the young girl. I also must admit that I'd find irony if it was. Unfortunately, the evidence for it being Anne Frank is insufficient.

Give me a black wig and I'll probably look more like Anne Frank than the Jewish girl in the bottom picture.

I personally think the hairline and the jawline are a match as is the eye spacing, although, the chin is held higher in the camp photo making the chin and nose appear different.

I also find the eyebrows to be the same.

Again, this isn't the thread for it.

I can't prove that isn't Anne any more than I can prove it is.

Without a positive identification accounting for the children in the photograph, I think the question remains open, personally.

We don't have to agree though, at all, and divergence of opinion is one of the parents of innovation.

[Hektor]

I was elaborating on the last sentence of Grok's summary in your previous post.

The part of the last sentence you elaborated on does imply that mainstream scholars accept the shrunken heads as legit.

One can ask GROK or other LLMs to list mainstream figures that do. My expectation is that they probably become evasive if directly confronted.

They may for example not say that this was a charade, not call it a fraud, but claim that the evidence for this being legit is a bit meager. It's the same egg dancing as with the 'gas chambers' in Dachau. There were/are plenty of ethnographic and other collections in Museums/universities in Germany. Easy to find for psychological warfare units, which were actually prepared for this type of tasks, many of their members being Jews from Germany or trained by them and they were familiar with the academic and museal landscape in Germany prior to WW2. Anatomical collections may have other types of collections as well e.g. relating to anatomy and body parts... So one can do some nice placements in a concentration camp where a large number of corpses of disease victims were already present. It's psychological warfare operatives wet dream.

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I'm reminded no one has posted this yet. Seems pertinent.

[Joe Splink]

............... although, the chin is held higher in the camp photo making the chin and nose appear different.

There is a radical difference in lighting, and the tip of her nose is shadowed in the Belsen pic but not the stock photo, and her more extreme smile in the Belsen pic is pushing her right jawline out. (I just got called on this on X ... by ... Shelley Cohen)

[Stubble]

Can we talk about nazi shrunken heads being fake and gay in this thread though? We have the other thread for Little jewish Anne...

I can see it being the same girl, for me, one of the strongest red threads there is the hair line. That's, pretty distinct.

As I've said before and I will repeat now, it isn't definitive and without positively identifying the children in the photograph from the camp, we may never know who that is definitely.

I think you are right Joe, but, I can't prove it.

[Eye of Zyclone]

I'm reminded no one has posted this yet. Seems pertinent.

This one, made by the same guy, seems even more on topic. And much shorter.

[Stubble]

Thanks EoZ!