Correct and I would like to continue discussing that topic. My argument is that revisionists use incorrect, invalid, illogical, opinionated critiques. I can easily evidence examples of that.Source criticism is not only valid, but, is its own field.
It is notable that the revisionists never ask to be called historians. Even they know they are not that."History is the systematic study of the past, focusing primarily on the human past. As an academic discipline, it analyses and interprets evidence to construct narratives about what happened and explain why it happened."
Revisionists can't do this for Reinhardt resettlement or seemingly even for a microscopic detail like Blobel's flamethrower. Blobel's flamethrower clearly doesn't evidence the Holocaust in any substantial way. On the other hand this thread does evidence, through the posters' endless diversions and counter questions, their complete avoidance in engaging in the basic task of doing history. Being critical is fine, but being critical at the exclusion of the basic task of history means you shouldn't be taken seriously.
That does not mean they are lying about the existence of death camps with gas chambers. Casting aside 100% of the eyewitnesses who say they saw gas chambers as unreliable, leaves that Holocaust denier non-history bombsaway correctly identified as pointless and non-serious.Blobel and Hoess are obviously unreliable witnesses.
Holocaust denial is fake historical revision, as it fails at the primary task of history, which as bombsaway quoted above is "...to construct narratives about what happened...". The so-called revisionists here cannot produce chronologies for any of the AR camps, Chelmno, the A-B Kremas, or at places such as Bai Yar, Ponary or Rumbula, or what happened to the millions of Jews arrested by the Nazis 1939-45. Instead, they variously deny that gassings and mass shootings took place, acknowledging opinions vary as to what took place, as the so-called revisionists are not unified in their beliefs.HolyH believers won’t permit ANY ‘revision’ or even healthy skepticism of its core claims. Which proves their belief is NOT A GENUINE HISTORY.
viewtopic.php?p=24292#p24292Nessie wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2026 3:22 pm Stubble;
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Correct and I would like to continue discussing that topic. My argument is that revisionists use incorrect, invalid, illogical, opinionated critiques. I can easily evidence examples of that.Source criticism is not only valid, but, is its own field.
viewtopic.php?p=24292#p24292Nessie wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2026 10:57 am viewtopic.php?p=24335#p24335
Holocaust denial is fake historical revision, as it fails at the primary task of history, which as bombsaway quoted above is "...to construct narratives about what happened...". The so-called revisionists here cannot produce chronologies for any of the AR camps, Chelmno, the A-B Kremas, or at places such as Bai Yar, Ponary or Rumbula, or what happened to the millions of Jews arrested by the Nazis 1939-45. Instead, they variously deny that gassings and mass shootings took place, acknowledging opinions vary as to what took place, as the so-called revisionists are not unified in their beliefs.HolyH believers won’t permit ANY ‘revision’ or even healthy skepticism of its core claims. Which proves their belief is NOT A GENUINE HISTORY.
Genuine historical revision is not achieved by doubting the evidence for mass gassings and claiming therefore mass gassings cannot have happened. It is achieved by producing evidence of an alternative. For example, evidence from eyewitness who worked at the A-B Kremas, that they never had gas chambers and what the buildings were used for. Some have tried to produce evidenced revised histories, such as Mattogno, but he cannot even decide himself what took place inside the Leichenkellers, as he variously suggests they were prepared for showering or used as originally intended corpse stores.
Anyone who wants to revise history, has to gather evidence to prove a new chronology of events, or narrative. Historians will correct ridicule and ostracise those who fail in that task, as it is more than likely a fake conspiratorial pseudo-history. Genuine work cannot be undermined by fakery.
Why is Nesserto so afraid of debating forensic historian Greg Gerdes?
Note the use of ad hominem to support the argument. There is corroborating evidence that Blobel was responsible for experiments to determine what was the best way to cremate the corpses from mass graves. The cremation was to do enough to make body counts and establishing cause of death impossible. There were also concerns about contamination the groundwater. It was not a full cremation operation, to reduce the corpses to ash. A flamethrower setting a corpse alight, so that the flammables in a corpse burn, in the hope the fire spreads amongst the corpses in a mass grave, could have been enough to do the job. Someone decided that it was not sufficient, hence the corpses were exhumed and cremated on pyres.CONCLUSION:
A.) Only a dimwit or someone brainwashed would believe it is possible to “cremate” a single corpse with a flamethrower.
B.) Only a retard or someone deeply brainwashed would think it was worth “experimenting” to see if a “flamethrower” would be a suitable way to “cremate” the alleged hundreds of thousands of corpses of the alleged genocide of all jooze by the alleged mass-gassings.
C.) Only a retard or someone deeply brainwashed would believe that Blobel had to be “persuaded to abandon the experiments” as he couldn’t conclude unassisted that the “experiments” weren’t successful.
In fact the Nazi mass cremations were established as having taken place from evidence from multiple eyewitnesses and the mass of buried cremated remains found at the AR camps and Chelmno. Revisionists don't think evidentially, they think conspiratorially.D.) Allied interrogators wanted info that confirmed their confirmation biases of Nazties being ‘bad’.
E. Allied interrogators wanted ’confessions’ of Naztie barbarity for use in show-trials and newsreel/journalistic PR. The more emotionally-gripping and sensational the better.
What is nesserto and his fellow mentally ill HC cult members waiting for?OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.
Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.
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a - $100.00 reward - is being offered for each one of the 100 alleged “scientifically proven” mass graves / cremation pits in question that is proven - with the same standard of proof applied in U. S. civil courts - to actually exist and to currently contain the remains of - at least 2 people. (That is less than one tenth of one one thousandth of one percent of the alleged mass murder.)
https://thisisaboutscience.com/
Not at all. Those accused of Holocaust related crimes knew that the evidence the Holocaust had happened, was overwhelming and that they could not provide any evidence, either themselves, or from any other source, that the AR camps, Chelmno or A-B Kremas did not have gas chambers. Those accused were not reading from a script, they were relating what happened, for which there was corroborating evidence. Hence, every single person who worked at one of the death camps, relates the same main events, of mass transports, theft of property, gassings, burials and, or cremations. No one deviates from that, because, as so-called revisionists repeatedly prove, there is no evidence something else took place.Isn't it remarkable that two decades after the fact, everybody always says exactly what is expected...
If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have
actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.
Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.
Stubble, like the resident bully, likes to pretend that what the archaeological surveys have found at the AR camps, in this case TII, is not evidence to prove large areas of disturbed ground containing cremated human remains. The 56 Olympic sized swimming pools is an equivalence of the 2 hectares area, that one excavation found remains up to 7m deep. That is a volume of 20,000 x 7 = 140,000. An Olympic sized pool is 2500m3, so that volume is equivalent to 56 pools. That is what was described by the 1945 Polish War Crimes Commission survey. The Poles did not have the equipment to differentiate between the disturbed and undisturbed ground in that area, and identify the mass graves individually.bombsaway wrote:"In the northwestern section of the area, the surface is covered for about 2 hectares by a mixture of ashes and sand. In this mixture, one finds countless human bones, often still covered with tissue remains, which are in a condition of decomposition. During the inspection, which I made with the assistance of an expert in forensic medicine, it was determined that the ashes are without any doubt of human origin (remains of cremated human bones). The examination of human skulls could discover no trace of« wounding. At a distance of some 100 m, there is now an unpleasant odor of burning and decay."Stubble wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 3:06 am
Bombsaway, read the thread, and, take your last comment with you.
There is some ink on a page that says that there were craters, and that human remains had been scattered on an area of around 2 hectares.
You, and Nessie, selectively quote what you want and say '56 Olympic swimming pools'. Because, that 'sounds good'.
Furthermore, where are the pictures of this Bombsaway? Where are they?
The reasons you think 'this is like beating up a baby' is because you are either piss ignorant or a fucking dishonest hack.
If you want to read 'countless' as 'very few', showing nothing suspicious whatsoever, that's your prerogative I guess.
