The case against gassing compared to shooting.

[Stubble]

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Sure, but sometimes playing along is a useful exercise. This forum exists partly as a public proof of the correctness of our ideas. For that to work, it is necessary to be the more reasonable party. Characters like Nessie help with that by constantly being wrong.

If I am wrong, then so is every historian and anyone else who has investigated the Holocaust, by gathering evidence to establish a chronology of events and what happened to the Jews in Europe under Nazi occupation.

Your ideas are wrong, because you cannot evidence them. You argue, rather than evidence there were no gas chambers. I do not think you even know how to go about evidencing there were no gas chambers.

You piss ignorant retard, are you legitimately going to post that you have never been wrong, like, actually, factually incorrect and pivot to 'the mainstream is right' to cover your ass as you say you have never been demonstrably wrong?

You are, actually going to fucking do that?

You get ragdolled fucking constantly for being wrong. As an example, '56 Olympic Swimming Pools'....

[Nessie]

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Sure, but sometimes playing along is a useful exercise. This forum exists partly as a public proof of the correctness of our ideas. For that to work, it is necessary to be the more reasonable party. Characters like Nessie help with that by constantly being wrong.

If I am wrong, then so is every historian and anyone else who has investigated the Holocaust, by gathering evidence to establish a chronology of events and what happened to the Jews in Europe under Nazi occupation.

Your ideas are wrong, because you cannot evidence them. You argue, rather than evidence there were no gas chambers. I do not think you even know how to go about evidencing there were no gas chambers.

You piss ignorant retard, are you legitimately going to post that you have never been wrong, like, actually, factually incorrect and pivot to 'the mainstream is right' to cover your ass as you say you have never been demonstrably wrong?

You are, actually going to fucking do that?

How is gathering evidence to establish a chronology of events and what happened to the Jews, wrong? The Holocaust has been investigated in the same way every other historical event has and Wetzelrad states that is wrong.

You get ragdolled fucking constantly for being wrong. As an example, '56 Olympic Swimming Pools'....

In 1945, the Poles reported an area of 2 hectares, that at one point they excavated down to 7m, where they found cremated human remains mixed in with the earth. That has a volume equivalent to 56 Olympic sized swimming pools. It is the part of the camp witnesses state the main mass graves were located. It is the part of the camp the 1944 aerial photo shows as disturbed ground. Those are all evidenced facts.

[Archie]

Which is not how to investigate, because opinions are usually biased and opinions are like arse holes, everyone has one. Holocaust revisionist opinion is particularly biased and untrustworthy.

One of the most obnoxious things about you is how you pretend like your (frankly stupid) opinions are not opinions.

[Archie]

In 1945, the Poles reported an area of 2 hectares, that at one point they excavated down to 7m, where they found cremated human remains mixed in with the earth. That has a volume equivalent to 56 Olympic sized swimming pools. It is the part of the camp witnesses state the main mass graves were located. It is the part of the camp the 1944 aerial photo shows as disturbed ground. Those are all evidenced facts.

Can you please stop lying about this? They did NOT excavate 2 hectares to a depth of 7m. That is a lie which have repeated over and over. They excavated only a few pits.

[Nessie]

Which is not how to investigate, because opinions are usually biased and opinions are like arse holes, everyone has one. Holocaust revisionist opinion is particularly biased and untrustworthy.

One of the most obnoxious things about you is how you pretend like your (frankly stupid) opinions are not opinions.

Have you any examples of me pretending an opinion is not an opinion?

[Nessie]

In 1945, the Poles reported an area of 2 hectares, that at one point they excavated down to 7m, where they found cremated human remains mixed in with the earth. That has a volume equivalent to 56 Olympic sized swimming pools. It is the part of the camp witnesses state the main mass graves were located. It is the part of the camp the 1944 aerial photo shows as disturbed ground. Those are all evidenced facts.

Can you please stop lying about this? They did NOT excavate 2 hectares to a depth of 7m. That is a lie which have repeated over and over. They excavated only a few pits.

I said they reported an area, that "AT ONE POINT", they excavated down to 7m. The "at one point" clearly indicates that the entire area was not excavated to 7m, it was only once, in one excavation, that they went that deep.

[HansHill]

People with triple digit IQ understand that depth is not a property of area. Invoking swimming pools is either low IQ or deceitful.

I think in your case its both, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, from the principle of charity.

Stop being deceitful.

[Stubble]

People with triple digit IQ understand that depth is not a property of area. Invoking swimming pools is either low IQ or deceitful.

I think in your case its both, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, from the principle of charity.

Stop being deceitful.

You may be underestimating people with a room temperature IQ Sir. I'm not sure they wouldn't understand that 56 swimming pools is a volume and that a surface area should be expressed in tennis courts...

[Archie]

Which is not how to investigate, because opinions are usually biased and opinions are like arse holes, everyone has one. Holocaust revisionist opinion is particularly biased and untrustworthy.

One of the most obnoxious things about you is how you pretend like your (frankly stupid) opinions are not opinions.

Have you any examples of me pretending an opinion is not an opinion?

You don't think other people are allowed to disagree with your interpretation of "the evidence."

[Archie]

In 1945, the Poles reported an area of 2 hectares, that at one point they excavated down to 7m, where they found cremated human remains mixed in with the earth. That has a volume equivalent to 56 Olympic sized swimming pools. It is the part of the camp witnesses state the main mass graves were located. It is the part of the camp the 1944 aerial photo shows as disturbed ground. Those are all evidenced facts.

Can you please stop lying about this? They did NOT excavate 2 hectares to a depth of 7m. That is a lie which have repeated over and over. They excavated only a few pits.

I said they reported an area, that "AT ONE POINT", they excavated down to 7m. The "at one point" clearly indicates that the entire area was not excavated to 7m, it was only once, in one excavation, that they went that deep.

You can't extrapolate "one point" out to the entire area, dumbass. You claim to be Mr. Evidence and then you literally just make up data.

For the early reports, we have vague descriptions from not very reliable parties. No precise data. No confirmation of the claims via independent observers or photographic documentation. We simply have to take their word for it.

If there were "56 Olympic swimming pools" worth of human ash at Treblinka, it would still be there. Yet we've never seen it.

In the rare instances where we actually get to see a photo, it's not very impressive.

[Nessie]

One of the most obnoxious things about you is how you pretend like your (frankly stupid) opinions are not opinions.

Have you any examples of me pretending an opinion is not an opinion?

You don't think other people are allowed to disagree with your interpretation of "the evidence."

I am asking you to provide examples, as per forum rules "No Dodging" If you make a controversial claim without support, others have the right to request support. You must respond in some fashion, either by explaining your basis for the claim (whatever it may be) or by conceding that support is lacking"

Either provide examples, or admit support for your claim is lacking. As for your loaded question, people are allowed to disagree with my interpretation of the evidence. You were suggesting I use opinions, rather than evidence, which is untrue. Revisionism is heavily reliant on opinion, rather than evidence. For example, instead of finding eyewitnesses who worked inside the AR camps, who say there were no gas chambers, which would be evidence there were no gas chambers, you argue that gas chambers were not physically possible as described, therefore the eyewitnesses lied. You are using your opinion on the evidence, rather than specific evidence, to support your claim.

[Nessie]

People with triple digit IQ understand that depth is not a property of area. Invoking swimming pools is either low IQ or deceitful.

I think in your case its both, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, from the principle of charity.

Stop being deceitful.

Depth is a property of volume. Invoking swimming pools is a means to explaining the volume of the part of the camp used for the main mass graves.

[Nessie]

People with triple digit IQ understand that depth is not a property of area. Invoking swimming pools is either low IQ or deceitful.

I think in your case its both, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, from the principle of charity.

Stop being deceitful.

You may be underestimating people with a room temperature IQ Sir. I'm not sure they wouldn't understand that 56 swimming pools is a volume and that a surface area should be expressed in tennis courts...

Explaining a place which contained mass graves, as a volume, makes more sense. The 56 Olympic sized pools covers both a large area and volume, that you do not want to accept, because it would be easily enough to bury hundreds of thousands of corpses.

[Nessie]

Can you please stop lying about this? They did NOT excavate 2 hectares to a depth of 7m. That is a lie which have repeated over and over. They excavated only a few pits.

I said they reported an area, that "AT ONE POINT", they excavated down to 7m. The "at one point" clearly indicates that the entire area was not excavated to 7m, it was only once, in one excavation, that they went that deep.

You can't extrapolate "one point" out to the entire area, dumbass. You claim to be Mr. Evidence and then you literally just make up data.

I am not using that data as evidence, it is an equivalence, to challenge revisionist claims there is not enough space inside TII to bury c800,000 corpses.

For the early reports, we have vague descriptions from not very reliable parties. No precise data. No confirmation of the claims via independent observers or photographic documentation. We simply have to take their word for it.

Every single person who worked inside TII describes mass graves. People who worked nearby to the camp, speak to seeing excavators digging there. An aerial photo shows disturbed ground where witnesses located the main mass graves. Geophysics has found a series of pits in that area.

If there were "56 Olympic swimming pools" worth of human ash at Treblinka, it would still be there. Yet we've never seen it.

In the rare instances where we actually get to see a photo, it's not very impressive.

You dishonestly post a photo of Sobibor, where a number of pits were excavated and found not to contain much in the way of remains. Why did you not post this image, from where trees were planted over graves which have been uncovered, showing buried remains stretching into the distance?



You do not like the evidence you have been presented, so you ignore it and demand more.

[Nessie]

I am still waiting for this claim to be explained;

Now, the case against gassings is abundant, against shootings not so much...

It seems that some are arguing (not evidencing) that the case against gassings is in part due to a supposed lack of mass graves at the AR camps. Why is there a failure to evidence a lack of mass graves?