Here's an excerpt from Germar in this speech:
[~39:00]
So you can bet that there were orders coming from Warsaw and from Moscow. What type they were, this is the kind of investigation we have yet to do. [Where] in that chain of command jews were sitting, I don’t know. But they are not needed. You can see here the Stalinist will to completely destroy psychologically Germany and to pit Poland against Germany. That is an important point.
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We’re talking about historical understanding and to make the jews understand, and the Zionists, we’re not coming after you. We’re not blaming you for having constructed this narrative in order to whatever. Sure, they took advantage of it, particularly since 1961 when the gravy train was already running with the Eichmann trial big time, and ever since have been profited from that.
But if you look in the first decades of the state of Israel and of the jewish community, particularly in this country, they were not riding the Holocaust train! It wasn’t even called that, way back then. The partial identity between Soviet spies in the United States and a religious jewish background was troublesome truth for the jewish community. They kept their head low in the early years of the Cold War and were not rocking the boat.
So this way you can make even the jews see we’re not out for revenge for what you did to us, psychologically. The story came from a different angle. And I think that is because people assume we are spreading these Holocaust “denial theories”, as they call them, in order to get at the jews, in order to say the jews have made this big conspiracy in order to get us and destroy us. Yeah, it’s being used now as such. This is what happens now with them manipulating us with this and saying in order to prevent anything like that happening again, we must allow and support them to pre-emptively kill everyone that even looks askance at them! Which is what’s happening in Gaza and what the conflict with many of these nations in the Middle East with Israel is about. That’s a separate story where we are today.
Historically seen as it started differently and it has taken on its own life. And we need to break that vicious circle we are in, using this presumed genocide, say what happens to the jews as we define genocide by the United Nations and in law, actually it was a genocide. You don’t need gas chambers to commit genocide. If you separate people so that they can’t reproduce, it’s already called genocide. And that’s what the National Socialists did in the camps, separating genders and putting them under living conditions that inevitably had to lead to many of them dying of disease and so forth. So technically speaking, legally speaking, how it is defined today, it was genocide. Now, that law didn’t exist back then. That’s a legal fine print.
So this genocide in its downgraded fashion without homicidal gas chambers, which didn’t exist, but the homicidal gas chambers being the foremost psychological weapon to traumatize the jews, young jews of new generation today and every one of us, we have gone through this education and know how shocking it is to see these bulldozers shoving corpses into mass graves at Bergen-Belsen and being told that’s what the Germans did to the jews. That was force majeure of epidemics breaking out in camps that the Germans had no control over. They didn’t plan that. But you’re not being told that.
And the effect of it is that America for the most part is willing to go along, and Europe, to go along with what the jews and Zionists do in the Middle East. To break that vicious circle, to get a correct understanding, we can learn the correct lessons of history only if we get first the facts straight. And no matter what the facts are, morally speaking, you are never allowed to use past catastrophes of whatever nature to justify or foment current and future catastrophes! And that’s what’s happening. In order to prevent a new “Holocaust”, Israel is committing genocide.
[46:54]
So in order to prevent genocide, they commit genocide! There’s something wrong with this!
Unfortunate to see Rudolf still takes this position. He's under the impression that Jews are just anxious observers of the events unfolding in the world, rather than the
single most powerful ethnic group near-universally advancing sadistic collective-ideological ambitions. The story of
how Jews organize (now and historically, and at scale) is a direct challenge to his perspective, here. The genocidal state of Israel did not 'happen' to Jews; they chose it (surveys have proven Israeli Jews overwhelmingly support hostilities in Gaza and related initiatives; also see the book Against Our Better Judgment by Alison Weir, which proves
conclusively the Jewish network that subverted American national interests to create Israel, available here:
https://archive.org/details/weir-alison ... as-_202404). Jewish subversion of institutions globally (and countless political assassinations, etc.) did not 'happen' to them; they
chose it and labeled the truth-tellers 'antisemitic'. 9/11 did not get 'blamed' on Jews; they coordinated it (for Israel; see work by Christopher Bollyn), then covered it up in the media and institutions they own. It's the same deception format as the 'Holocaust'; first in the media, then in the history books. There are myriad examples.
Because Germar has only lightly researched other Jewish-involved areas than the 'Holocaust', he is often seen missing the forest for the trees. To him, the Jews are
only lying and benefiting from the 'Holocaust'. They are
only operating one genocidal state in the Middle East. Most Jews are against it, or at least neutral, right? And everything they do wrong is because they are 'scared' (this is the logic people use to justify abusers/murderers/etc.).
The facts state plainly otherwise. This is not even a debate -- Germar just hasn't realized this yet.
Examples are in this thread:
Criticism of Jews as a Collective (Not Just as Individuals) is Ethical and Warranted
https://www.codohforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=2434#p2434
Regarding the 'Holocaust' as a subversive tool
intentionally used by Jews as such, see:
Jewish Collective Behavior and the Holocaust Narrative - Wiki
https://wiki.codohforum.com/pages/index ... _Narrative
On the Jewish role in the 'Holocaust' narrative, here is some previous discussion:
On to Rudolf:
I have made clear on this forum and elsewhere that I disagree with Rudolf, here, and I am not the only one. Perhaps I would first need to clarify his meaning of "huge Jewish conspiracy" -- just how "huge" are we talking, here? What's the threshold for being able to rightfully call it a "Jewish conspiracy"?
In recent interviews and writings, Germar has made clear that one of his motives in his work is to prevent retaliative violence against any groups or individuals. I respect this about him greatly however I think he may be putting this motive (driven perhaps by fear and/or personal experiences) ahead of a truly objective analysis and weighting of all relevant factors.
Here is just a small (yet powerful) sampling of some of the Jewish influences at key junctures in the formation of the 'Holocaust' narrative:
The Jewish organizations and people mentioned in this article who have conspired to promote the myth of the so-called Holocaust include:
- The World Jewish Congress (WJC), whose president, Nahum Goldmann, admitted that WJC officials originated and promoted the idea of the IMT and reparations from Germany. Only after persistent efforts by WJC officials were Allied leaders persuaded to accept the idea of the Nuremberg trials.
- Two Jewish U.S. Army officers, Lt. Col. Murray Bernays and Col. David Marcus, who played prominent roles in implementing and staffing personnel for the Nuremberg trials.
- Jewish Sgt. Bernard Clarke and other British officers, who tortured Rudolf Höss into making his famous confession at the IMT.
- Jewish attorney Benjamin Ferencz, who acknowledges that he used torture and intimidation tactics to help convict German defendants at the Allied postwar trials.
- Jewish attorney Robert Kempner, the chief prosecutor in the Ministries Trial at Nuremberg, who used bribes and threats to prosecute defendants.
- The Jewish Israeli Mossad agents near Buenos Aires, who illegally captured Adolf Eichmann in May 1960.
- Jewish “Holocaust” survivor Tuviah Friedman, who by his own admission beat up to 20 German prisoners a day to obtain confessions and weed out SS officers.
- Jewish prosecutor Josef Kirschbaum, who brought former concentration-camp inmate Einstein into court to testify that the defendant, Menzel, had murdered Einstein’s brother. Menzel foiled Einstein’s testimony by pointing to Einstein’s brother sitting in the court room.
- False Jewish eyewitness testimony at the trials of John Demjanjuk, Frank Walus and Feodor Fedorenko.
- The Canadian Holocaust Remembrance Association, a Jewish group that claimed Ernst Zündel was spreading false information about the “Holocaust.” This group used Canadian taxpayer money to prosecute Zündel for the criminal offense of spreading false information.
- The Jewish Defense League, which attacked David Cole and then threatened him into recanting his views on the “Holocaust”.
- The Simon Wiesenthal Center, which has been looking to prosecute elderly Germans even though there is no proof that these Germans actually committed a crime. Just being at a German camp is considered to be a crime.
- Moshe Kantor, president of the European Jewish Congress, who at the International Holocaust Remembrance Day at the European Parliament ceremony in Brussels on January 27, 2014 rejected free speech arguments regarding the so-called Holocaust. Kantor apparently wants to criminalize any speech, symbols or gestures that Jews consider to be anti-Semitic.
Other Jewish organizations are actively working to promote the official Holocaust narrative. For example, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) writes about its Holocaust education program:
“Since 2005, Echoes & Reflections has impacted more than 85,000 educators, reaching an estimated 8 million students across the United States—and at no cost. Through our Holocaust education programs and resources, educators gain the skills, knowledge, and confidence to teach this topic effectively.”
The ADL is also actively promoting “Holocaust” historian Deborah Lipstadt to be the U.S. Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism.[40]
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) also actively works to advance pro-Israel policies and support a strong U.S.-Israel relationship.[41] All American politicians are so aware of AIPAC’s power that they would never publicly question the official Holocaust narrative.[42]
The alleged genocide of European Jewry is extremely important in promoting Jewish interests. The “Holocaust” has been used to justify the Allied war effort, to establish the state of Israel, to justify Israel’s violence against its neighbors, to induce guilt in both Germans and the Allied nations, to cover up and ignore horrific Allied crimes against Germans, to allow Jews to receive massive reparations from Germany, and to create solidarity in the Jewish community. The extreme importance of the “Holocaust” in advancing Zionist/Jewish interests ensures that Jewish groups and individuals will continue to promote this falsification of history in the future.[43]
https://codoh.com/library/document/the- ... holocaust/
Putting Hollywood and the many Jewish "lie-witnesses" aside, can anyone honestly read through the above and not say there at least
may be a significant Jewish element to this narrative?
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To refer to the Holocaust as a ‘Jewish conspiracy’ implies that this small group of Jews acted together during and immediately after the war, concocted the Holocaust story, the gas chambers, the 6 million deaths, etc. because they knew that it would lead to global sympathy for Jewish people, to financial reparations, and perhaps even to the final consent to the creation of a Jewish Zionist State of Israel. Well, in fact all those things happened — but we are utterly lacking any evidence that it was planned that way.
- Debating the Holocaust: A New Look at Both Sides
This is fallacy. One does not need to prove
all of those things in order to say a "Jewish conspiracy" has taken place. I do not know of anyone who would say that the Holocaust narrative is
only a Jewish conspiracy, denying the role of other non-Jewish stakeholders. But given Jews are a very small portion of the nations they have been a part of (within Allied networks), and given their outsized role in producing 'evidence' (as witnesses), then subsequently in the trials, in their peddling of propaganda, in their historiographical endeavors, in academia, and much, much more, one has to take this question of Jewish coordination of key and substantial portions of this narrative seriously. It may be other things
in addition to a 'Jewish conspiracy' but this does not rule out this description as also being accurate.
For another in-depth chronology of Jewish activities creating the 'Holocaust' narrative, I would also highly recommend the book
Collect and Record! by Laura Jockusch.
For Germar to suggest Jews were 'not needed' in the creation of the Holocaust narrative, this is at best an assumption from him. The fact is, the historiography of the narrative has overwhelmingly relied upon Jewish sources, even if mainly because of Jews being the most persecuted group by Germany and most prevalent in camps. World media, Nuremberg, judicial systems (and anti-denial laws), academia and museums, and testimony on-the-ground (camps/ghettos) are where the narrative is derived and solidified, and Jews were indispensable in all of these.
Whether anyone is "coming for the Jews" is totally irrelevant to whether the Holocaust narrative is sound or not. Germar is playing the game of conflating the two, which is the same game used to attack revisionist efforts for decades. The thing is, if people start questioning the integrity and sincerity of the Jewish collective, it is natural to also question the narrative(s) they have been peddling. So in a sense, yes, revisionism and 'anti-semitism' may go hand-in-hand, to some extent. But they are distinct matters. Correlation does not imply causation.
