Propaganda free TV shows and movies

[Alonso]

You, do understand how acceptance and promotion are, different, do you not?

Actually, the distinction seems quite blurry in this case because we're essentially discussing promotion of acceptance, so it's hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. At any rate, I agree that it's best to continue this part of the discussion in a separate thread (or threads). Looking forward to that.

[Wahrheitssucher]

There is one huge difference.
The vast majority of people who over the last three thousand years have promoted religious views, BELIEVED THOSE VIEWS THEMSELVES!

That doesn't sound like a difference, it looks like yet another similarity.
…That doesn't mean that all those involved in the hoax believed the lies. There must be a few who knew. But it seems clear that the vast majority of those who spread the hoax believed it.

What we have had since the invention of screens and films is elites DELIBERATELY spreading what they know is misinformation that THEY THEMSELVES DO NOT BELIEVE!!

Can you really not see the difference?

Not really. What I see is yet another similarity.
…only a few among those deceivers know that they are deceiving.
The rest, i.e, the vast majority of the deceivers, believe those deceptions…

Mass-murdering approximately 100,000 people [...] with complete impunity.

As tragic as that is, it's not any worse than murdering millions in the name of religion.
People believed [a conman’s] lies because HE BELIEVED HIS OWN LIES. …You just need a few people deliberately creating the lie, and a few thousands or millions believing it and repeating it. Which, again, seems to work the same whether the lie is about Covid, the holohoax, or religion.

You are repeatedly avoiding admitting the very simple point.

Your examples I regard as just stubborn and dishonest avoidance.
I regard that as self-deceptive of you.

[Alonso]

Looks like my words have caused offence. It wasn't my intention, but I realize I was careless. My unreserved apologies.

[Wahrheitssucher]

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No, no offence taken. [But thanks for your concern and respectful response]
I’m just replying honestly and frankly.
So I hope you aren’t offended by that frankness.

I am strongly suggesting to you — and to anyone else reading — that this is an extremely important issue RIGHT NOW. Extremely important!

The amount of calculated, deliberate misinformation and mind-manipulation that we the global community are constantly bombarded with right NOW is unprecedented.

And if WE COLLECTIVELY aren’t able to recognise that and instead are trying to downplay it because of some issues we have with our religious (e.g. Roman Catholic) conditioning, then I’m genuinely trying to inform you that you have become part of the problem.

The same collectives who have brainwashed humanity from childhood onwards with racist, war-propaganda and necro-pornographic deception (WW2 lies and holyH indoctrination) are CURRENTLY engaged in extremely sophisticated, and manipulative misinformation campaigns.

We as a collective who are wise to some of that, need to be helping inform our brothers and sisters about it. Not pretending it isn’t happening, or that it isn’t so bad because propaganda has always existed in SOME FORM.

[Alonso]

because of some issues we have with our religious (e.g. Roman Catholic) conditioning

I think what I said earlier led to confusion about my personal background. As I said, the religiousness of my grandma used to affect me every day one way or another. But that was just the first ten years of my life. After that, my family moved elsewhere, I lost contact with my grandma, and the religious influence in my life disappeared. Even before that, the anti-religious influence of my parents had trumped the influence of my grandma. I don't have a problem with my religious conditioning. My problem is that I never had that conditioning in the first place.

Now you ask me to join the fight against modern deceptions. I can agree it's a noble fight. But it seems to me that two things are needed in order to join such a fight. First, a working understanding of the deceptions. Check. Second, a belief in alternative political, social or religious ideas. I don't have that.

[Wahrheitssucher]

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A basic modern-day fact:
governments don't just fight military battles and wars — they ALSO decide how those battles and wars are remembered.
They even call it ‘the battle for hearts and minds’.
That in itself is nothing new…
But…
…since the beginning of the 20th century there has been a clique of people in positions of power and influence who decided: who was to fight, when they were to fight and the ‘reason’ given to fight that their minions promoted to the masses.
That same clique or collective afterwards decided who is to be remembered as the heroes, and who as the villains.
(Does anyone reading doubt this?)

And regarding WW2, that choice of villain and hero has been relentlessly reinforced through TV programmes and films for much longer than was previously done or was previously deemed necessary.
(Does anyone reading doubt that?)

It’s been eight decades now, and yet they are still indoctrinating us about THAT particular battle / war!!!

They are doing that via extremely sophisticated programmes: with big-budget films, documentaries, education curricula, museums, school visits, memorials, etc.

They have even created laws criminalising critical analysis of that war and their decision of who was the victim, who the villain, etc.

THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED!!!!
(Does anyone reading doubt that?)

SO… if you are someone who thinks this level of indoctrination and mind-manipulation has been going on since time immemorial, then YOU have been successfully duped.

If you are someone who hasn’t yet understood that the brazen lies and duping about WW2 and the experience of European jews in that war, has been extended long beyond the norm, and is being conducted BY people who self-identify as belonging to the ‘collective’ who started the war, who declared war against ‘Hitler’s Germany’ in April of 1933, then YOU are someone who has been successfully ‘brainwashed’.

And when you spend time and pay money to watch films like ‘Guns of Navarone’ or ‘Hogan’s heroes, or ‘Fury’ or ‘Inglorious basterds’ or ‘the Sound of music’, or ‘Schindler’s list’ or all of the Indiana Jones films, or ‘Shutter Island’ or ‘The Blues Brothers’, ‘Tintin’, ‘What’s up Doc’, ‘the Producers’… etc., etc., you are / were paying for your own mind-manipulation and indoctrination.

We all think we're forming our own opinions.
But our view of entire countries, of entire races, of entire religious societies, of history, OF REALITY itself, was — and still is — constructed for us by people with an agenda!
By a collective of people with an international, abstract, group identity.

And sadly very few people have the capability to recognise then undo ALL that conditioning and programming.

TEST:
if you still believe any of the official narratives of: WW2, the Holocaust, the Lavon Affair, The Vietnam war, the USS Liberty attack, the JFK and RFK murders, the Oklahoma bombings, the 911 attacks, the Oct 7th 2023 attack, the Bondi beach attack, the Charlie Kirk killing, the Ukraine situation, the alleged Iranian nuclear programme, the oxymoronic Islamic fascism agenda, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Gaddafi, Hamas, Hezbollah, Assad, N.Korea, etc., etc., etc., then you have been duped.

Likewise if you GENUINELY think questioning key aspects of the holyH ‘shoah’ narrative is ‘denial’ then you are very deeply brainwashed. (Nick Terry, Bombsaway, Jeff, Sergey, Statistical Mechanical, Confused Jew, Das Prussian and all the other clones that means YOU).

And if you think questioning any of the official narratives just mentioned makes someone a loony ‘conspiracy theorist’ or a ‘grifter’, that also means YOU.

And finally, if you think only others have been conditioned, with their opinions programmed, and you yourself are now immune to any mind-manipulation and misinformation and ALL your opinions are fact-based, then you are also definitely duped.