Sonderaktion 1005

[Pineapple]

Hello. I'm new to revisionism. Can revisionists explain to me what Sonderaktion 1005 really was?
I would appreciate a long answer. Thanks in advance.

[Archie]

"Pineapple"

Is there a reason you are trying to post under two different usernames?

Also a reminder from the rules: "We would ask only that you not present yourself dishonestly (e.g., by pretending to be a revisionist when you definitely are not)."

That reminder goes for "Diver Down" as well.

[Pineapple]

Hi. I'm sorry if I've caused some confusion. I didn't like my previous username and I couldn't find a way to delete the account so I made another one with a different name. I won't be using the other again.

As for my views, no, I'm a genuine revisionist and I want answers. I'm still early into my journey.The reason I've posted this topic here was because I didn't want the annoying usual suspects to barge in and start lying nonstop. Again I'm sorry if I've come across as suspicious. I understand the suspicions if there have been cases of this sort in the past.

[Pineapple]

I've already read a considerable amount of works but I still haven't quite figured out what the revisionist take on 1005 is. I'd really like to know. I'm sure there's a debunking of the orthodox narrative. I hope I'm given an answer.

[Archie]

I have deleted your other account but the posts are still on the forum.

For Aktion 1005, start with this.
https://holocaustencyclopedia.com/instr ... -1005/375/

[Pineapple]

Yeah I'm fine with the other one being deleted. Thanks for the encyclopedia link.

[curioussoul]

I highly recommend Mattogno's section "Aktion 1005" from his book The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories: https://holocausthandbooks.com/wp-conte ... /39-te.pdf

It's a good 350+ pages long and goes into detail about all of the individual pieces of evidence for the existence of this "Aktion". What always struck me as the most absurd aspect of Aktion 1005 is that a rag-tag group of barely more than 100 men were tasked with covering millions of square kilometers to identify German mass graves, unearth them, and cremate the corpses in the open air. To the extent that's even possible, why would they task some random guy named Paul Blobel with this gigantic undertaking?

To be honest, the entire premise is absurd.

[Eye of Zyclone]

Hello. I'm new to revisionism. Can revisionists explain to me what Sonderaktion 1005 really was?

Sonderaktion 1005 was a story made up by the Allies during WWII in order to explain why they were not going to provide physical evidence for their wild accusations against Nazi Germany.

[Stubble]

Jog my memory, this would mean that the JTA published this before jankel warnick published his propaganda pamphlet?

I'm assuming the source was some other, equally dubious source, from The Polish Government in Exile?

[Eye of Zyclone]

Jog my memory, this would mean that the JTA published this before jankel warnick published his propaganda pamphlet?

I'm assuming the source was some other, equally dubious source, from The Polish Government in Exile?

Oh yes, it did.

A Year in Treblinka
Jankiel Wiernik published Rok w Treblince (A Year in Treblinka) in 1944 as a clandestine booklet. It was printed through the efforts of the Jewish National Committee (Żydowski Komitet Narodowy, ŻKN), Bund (underground organizations of the remnants of Polish Jews), and the Polish Council to Aid Jews Żegota by means of an underground printer organized by Ferdynand Arczyński. The circulation was estimated by Władysław Bartoszewski as 2,000 copies. It was sent through Polish underground channels to London, and translated into English and Yiddish. It was also printed in the US by American representatives of the General Jewish Workers Union of Poland.[4] It was printed in Palestine by the Histadrut in December 1944, translated into Hebrew by Icchak Cukierman.[3] The book recounts his experiences in the Treblinka extermination camp between 1942 and 1943.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jankiel_Wiernik

[Hektor]

I highly recommend Mattogno's section "Aktion 1005" from his book The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories: https://holocausthandbooks.com/wp-conte ... /39-te.pdf

It's a good 350+ pages long and goes into detail about all of the individual pieces of evidence for the existence of this "Aktion". What always struck me as the most absurd aspect of Aktion 1005 is that a rag-tag group of barely more than 100 men were tasked with covering millions of square kilometers to identify German mass graves, unearth them, and cremate the corpses in the open air. To the extent that's even possible, why would they task some random guy named Paul Blobel with this gigantic undertaking?

To be honest, the entire premise is absurd.

It's indeed absurd. And even if you manage to cremate bodies from mass graves, that still would leave plenty of evidence.
But it's the ideal cop out to have an excuse for dimwits who got friends that asked, why the evidence is absent to begin with.

That does of course not mean that there were no executions. There probably were just no attempt to 'exterminate' the Jewish population, which they tried to put under lockdown and employ for useful work.

[Eye of Zyclone]

It's indeed absurd. And even if you manage to cremate bodies from mass graves, that still would leave plenty of evidence.
But it's the ideal cop out to have an excuse for dimwits who got friends that asked, why the evidence is absent to begin with.

Most of time, conspiracy theorists like Holohoaxers go to great lengths to explain why there is no solid evidence for their assertions and provide only dubious testimonies supposed to fill the gaps. There's a reason why the terms "Nazi conspiracy" and "Nazi conspirators" were used so profusely at the Nuremberg show trials.

[Stubble]

Jog my memory, this would mean that the JTA published this before jankel warnick published his propaganda pamphlet?

I'm assuming the source was some other, equally dubious source, from The Polish Government in Exile?

Oh yes, it did.

A Year in Treblinka
Jankiel Wiernik published Rok w Treblince (A Year in Treblinka) in 1944 as a clandestine booklet. It was printed through the efforts of the Jewish National Committee (Żydowski Komitet Narodowy, ŻKN), Bund (underground organizations of the remnants of Polish Jews), and the Polish Council to Aid Jews Żegota by means of an underground printer organized by Ferdynand Arczyński. The circulation was estimated by Władysław Bartoszewski as 2,000 copies. It was sent through Polish underground channels to London, and translated into English and Yiddish. It was also printed in the US by American representatives of the General Jewish Workers Union of Poland.[4] It was printed in Palestine by the Histadrut in December 1944, translated into Hebrew by Icchak Cukierman.[3] The book recounts his experiences in the Treblinka extermination camp between 1942 and 1943.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jankiel_Wiernik

I'd be interested to see their source, I imagine there is reference to the lobster jews in the original article?

In the words of a now classic film, 'Starship Troopers' I'd like to know more.

[Eye of Zyclone]

I'd be interested to see their source, I imagine there is reference to the lobster jews in the original article?

In the words of a now classic film, 'Starship Troopers' I'd like to know more.

Probably. I don't remember exactly when they moved from steam chambers to gas chambers regarding Treblinka.

[Stubble]

It was in Nuremberg, so, late?