The CODOH Revisionist Forum

Stubble wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:06 pm
If I understand the opposing perspective, opinion is that liquid sub compact persons were poured into the grave space and then cremated of their own volition after introduction of a flame.

From the writing that I've read on the subject, this appears to be the consensus.

Remarkably, liquid concentrations of persons above 20/m^3 are seen as completely acceptable and no further comment is deemed necessary.

Pictures illustrating that the internees did not weight 77lbs per, mean nothing.

In short, they claim the dead are in the dirt at the Bug River camps, and no amount of photographs of empty grave space and clean sand will sway their opinion.

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org ... speak.html

Franz Stangl;

"Wirth was not in his office, they said he was up at the camp. I asked what was the matter? The man I was talking to said that one of the pits had overflowed. They had put too many corpses in it and putrefaction had progressed to fast so that the liquid underneath had pushed the bodies on top up and over, and the corpses had rolled down the hill."

"When the cremation grates were there, fire was kindled in the corpse pits to cremate the corpses on top… such a fire in one grave resulted from the gas from the corpses. Big tall flames shot up and there was an enormous mushroom cloud."

Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:08 pm

Keen wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 2:55 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 2:50 pm That is not a good enough answer.

Yes it is.

Not to any... lawyer... it is.

Yes it is.

And speaking of lawyers, did you know that the following statement of fact can be LEGALLY established as fact in a U.S. court.

It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 89 graves / cremation pits in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these four sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 2:50 pm There is no evidence they left.

Liar.

It has been PROVEN that they are not where you allege they are:

viewtopic.php?p=15969#p15969

http://thisisaboutscience.com/

Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 2:50 pm Do you not understand basic logic?

Yes Sergay, I do.

Here are some examples of the basic logic I understand:

If the physical evidence for a claim that - HAS TO EXIST - in order for the claim to be true - DOES NOT EXIST - then that claim is false.

If you knew where they are, you wouldn't need to ask where they went.

If the alleged Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II “holocausts” really did happen as alleged, then there actually would be numerous discernable extant huge mass graves filled with the remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of people to prove it. And a blind man with a toy plastic shovel could prove their existence in a heartbeat.

I also understand basic math. Here are examples of basic math that I understand:

If 89 graves contained the bones and teeth of 2.075 million people - then each grave would contain, on average, the remains of 23,315 people.

If a person has 32 teeth, and the remains of 2.075 million people are buried in 89 "huge mass graves" then the total number of teeth buried in the 89 graves would be over 66 million, and each of the 89 mass graves would contain, on average, over 746,000 teeth.

Sergay,

1 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 33 alleged Belzec graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

2 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 21 alleged Chelmno graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

3 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 20 alleged Sobibor graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

4 - In total, how many single, disconnected human teeth have been tangibly discovered within the 15 alleged Treblinka II graves / cremation pits in question: __?__.

Stubble wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 3:06 pm

If I understand the opposing perspective, opinion is that liquid sub compact persons were poured into the grave space and then cremated of their own volition after introduction of a flame.

No you don't understand. Things have been explained to you which you have ignored, which is why we have stopped bothering to.

bombsaway wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:59 pm you don't understand. Things have been explained to you [by us retards]

Let's recap what the retards have "explained" to us.

The Germans transited 2.075 million jews to Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II, where the jews were "gassed" with diesel fumes, which they died from in about 15 minutes. Then they were buried in 89 "huge mass graves" and covered "with a thick layer of sand." Then the bodies liquified and settled into an intertwined mass of corpses in a "wax-fat transformation." Then some of them were then dug up, stacked like cord wood in stacks of 2,000 corpses and "lit" with a match. But the men "just wouldn't burn" even after being soaked in gasoline. Then the Germans figured out that if they used female jews as "kindling" the huge piles of liquified jews would burn - even the men. Except for the womens hair. For some reason, perhaps for the same reason jewish men just don't burn, the womens hair didn't burn either. Then all the bones (about 16 million pounds) and teeth (about 66 million) were thrown right back into the gigantic pits they were dug out of, and again, were covered over with "a thick layer of sand" thus "utterly eradicating" all physical evidence of the horrific mass murder. The whole process was as magical as it was evil, as the remains of the jews have never been found, nor have the gigantic pits ever been proven to exist.

And only antisemites don't believe it.

Keen, no no, you are missing the secret sauce...

The bones and teeth were obliterated on sheet tin with wooden mallets.

That's why there aren't any teeth.

You ever, try to destroy a tooth? You ever try to destroy one with, a wooden mallet???

There is evidence from;

- Nazi, Polish and Jewish eyewitnesses of mass arrivals on mass transports.
- Nazi documents recording mass transports and arrivals.
- the circumstances of the operation of AR, clearing ghettos and the theft of personal possessions.
- the motive of wanting to rid of Jews, who were seen as an enemy of the state.
- the opportunity the Nazis had, due to the level of control they exerted over the people of countries they occupied.
- archaeological surveys of the site, including excavations and geophysics, that have identified large areas of disturbed ground, containing cremated human remains.

There is no evidence of;

- mass departures from the camp.
- mass arrivals at any other place, from the camp
- any eyewitness who worked inside the camp, who states it had another purpose
- any document that details a different purpose for the camp.
- archaeological evidence that found undisturbed ground, proving it was never dug into.

To counter the lack of evidence, so-called revisionists lie and deceive themselves about the volume of evidence and illogically argue that because they cannot be convinced there is enough grave space to cope with the corpses, therefore there were no mass killings and burials.

Keen wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 9:38 pm

bombsaway wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:59 pm you don't understand. Things have been explained to you [by us retards]

Let's recap what the retards have "explained" to us.

Ad hominem, a logical fallacy used when someone has run out of genuine argument.

The Germans transited 2.075 million jews to Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor and Treblinka II,

That is at the upper end of the Nazi transports. So-called revisionists use the highest figures, to make the evidence of mass burials appear more unlikely.

... where the jews were "gassed" with diesel fumes,

Some sources do say that, but the eyewitnesses with knowledge of the type of engine used, said it was petrol, or they did not say what fuel type it was.

.. which they died from in about 15 minutes. Then they were buried in 89 "huge mass graves" and covered "with a thick layer of sand." Then the bodies liquified and settled into an intertwined mass of corpses in a "wax-fat transformation." Then some of them were then dug up, stacked like cord wood in stacks of 2,000 corpses and "lit" with a match. But the men "just wouldn't burn" even after being soaked in gasoline. Then the Germans figured out that if they used female jews as "kindling" the huge piles of liquified jews would burn - even the men.

Eyewitnesses describe corpses being piled, naked, into mass graves and covered over. There are also descriptions of the use of lime to speed up composition. Archaeological excavations have found a corrosive substance and corpses that have liquified into a waxy, fat mass. The eyewitnesses describe various attempts to cremate the corpses, both inside the graves and on pyres and the difficulties they faced. Corpses with more body fat, were found to burn better than those without, which makes sense, since fat is flammable.

Except for the womens hair. For some reason, perhaps for the same reason jewish men just don't burn, the womens hair didn't burn either.

There has been finds of buried hair, which was likely from when the arriving prisoners had their hair cut. There was probably an excess the Nazis could not sell, so it was buried when the camp was demolished and taken out of use.

Then all the bones (about 16 million pounds) and teeth (about 66 million) were thrown right back into the gigantic pits they were dug out of, and again, were covered over with "a thick layer of sand" thus "utterly eradicating" all physical evidence of the horrific mass murder. The whole process was as magical as it was evil, as the remains of the jews have never been found, nor have the gigantic pits ever been proven to exist.

And only antisemites don't believe it.

The buried remains have not been utterly eradicated, that is a so-called revisionist self-deception. There is photographic and archaeological evidence to prove huge areas of disturbed ground, containing cremated human remains, in the form of ash, bones, cremains and decomposed corpses. The so-called revisionists just pretend, to themselves, that there is either nothing there, or that what is there cannot amount to the remains of hundreds of thousands of people.