The CODOH Revisionist Forum

bombsaway wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:47 pm

HansHill wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:39 pm Also another penny in the "Bombsaway is not White jar"

I'm sure I'm not the only one who picked up on that

why lol

Its a White person thing, it would take too long to explain

HansHill wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:38 pm Are you arguing Van Pelt should have consulted you instead of Michal Kula for an accurate model?

this is Kula's testimony

“Among other things made in the locksmith's workshop were the fake showers intended for
the gas chambers, as well as the columns of wire netting for introducing the contents of cans

of Zyklon into the gas chambers. This column had a height of 3 meters with a square cross-
section of (width) about 70 cm. Such a column was constituted of three nets, one inside the

other. The outside net was made of 3 mm iron wire stretched over angle irons measuring 50
mm x 10 mm. These angle irons were found all over the net and the upper and lower parts
were linked by an angle iron of the same type. The mesh of the nets was square, measuring
45 mm. The second net was constructed in the same way and was inserted into the interior
of the first at a distance of about 150 mm. The mesh of this net was square and measured
about 25 mm. Both nets on angle irons were connected by an iron bar. The third part of the
column was movable. It was an empty column made of a thin zinc lamina with a square
section of about 150 mm. At the top it terminated in a cone and below in a flat square base.
Angle irons of sheet metal were welded onto a thin bar of sheet metal at a distance of about
25 mm from the edge of this column. On these angle irons a thin net was stretched with
square mesh of about 1 mm. This net ended at the base of the cone and from there toward
the upper extension of the net ran a framework of sheet metal along the full height to the
vertex of the cone. A can of Zyklon was poured from above into the distribution cone and
thus a uniform distribution of the Zyklon on all four sides of the column was obtained. After
evaporation of the gas the entire central column was withdrawn and the evaporated silica
removed.”

That detail is not specified, Van Pelt clearly took liberties with his reconstruction, it doesn't have the cone either.

The "empty" "movable" column could mean a lot of things.

I don't disagree that Van Pelt took some liberties with Kula's description. There are however, three glaring problems for you

1) Were they actually to exist we could, you know, look at one to find out. Too bad they don't.

2) Were you to stand on a street corner in say, Berlin, and repeat your claim to passersby that the Auschwitz museum is presenting fabricated gas chamber evidence to the public, you would be arrested.

3) Van Pelt's liberties are generally considered to be to strengthen the inherent weakness of Kula's design - eg a cross-brace, anchorage points, adjusted chimney flue for Zyklon insertion - these were all things that Kula fumbled and Van Pelt corrected for. You are now undoing his life's work! Not cool Bombsaway!

Stubble wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:08 pm Bottom line, somebody is lying, either the sonderkommando, or the mainline history.

I suppose one could say that at different times, different methods were used, and that would be fair, except that you have a sonderkommando, namely Muller, saying the columns worked as a seed spreader evenly distributing the pellets in the death chamber, and you have others saying that the columns dropped the pellets in a pile on the floor.

It's bad faith to assume that somebody is lying just because it isn't consistent with the truth or inconsistent with other reports. They might be but people make mistakes all the time, especially people who go through physically tortuous and nightmarish conditions.

HansHill wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:10 pm

bombsaway wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:47 pm

HansHill wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:39 pm Also another penny in the "Bombsaway is not White jar"

I'm sure I'm not the only one who picked up on that

why lol

Its a White person thing, it would take too long to explain

You're the one collecting pennies over here.

bombsaway wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:20 pm

HansHill wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:10 pm

bombsaway wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 10:47 pm

why lol

Its a White person thing, it would take too long to explain

You're the one collecting pennies over here.

Don't worry BA you'll get your cut.

ConfusedJew wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:17 pm

Stubble wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:08 pm Bottom line, somebody is lying, either the sonderkommando, or the mainline history.

I suppose one could say that at different times, different methods were used, and that would be fair, except that you have a sonderkommando, namely Muller, saying the columns worked as a seed spreader evenly distributing the pellets in the death chamber, and you have others saying that the columns dropped the pellets in a pile on the floor.

It's bad faith to assume that somebody is lying just because it isn't consistent with the truth or inconsistent with other reports. They might be but people make mistakes all the time, especially people who go through physically tortuous and nightmarish conditions.

"They mistakenly made up the Holocaust"

What am I reading

We're on a bit of a detour here but I will allow it and then I will circle back to the ventilation before going back to the Markiewicz report.

It seems like you guys want to know how the gas devices were removed in order to accelerate the process since leaving it on the ground would have really slowed things down.

This is a pretty specific technical detail but it matters for mechanics. I would expect there to be a lot of inconsistencies across all of the different reports on this detail but I would naturally think that those who actually did the gassing, would be more credible.

I'm just trying to prove at this point that it was possible for them to deal with the extended gassing period and then you can tell me where there is evidence against it, if it even exists.

From what I'm seeing:

Documents from the Auschwitz Central Construction Office, such as those cited in The Chemistry of Auschwitz by Carlo Mattogno, mention the installation of "wire mesh insertion devices" (Drahtnetzeinschiebevorrichtung) in the gas chambers. These devices were designed to streamline the introduction and potential retrieval of Zyklon B, indicating a deliberate mechanism for handling the canisters or residues.

Rudolf Höss, the Auschwitz commandant, testified during the Nuremberg Trials (1946) and in his memoirs that Zyklon B was introduced through openings in the gas chamber roofs. While he did not detail the removal process, he confirmed the use of columns and the rapid cycling of gassing operations, implying that any residual material was managed efficiently to maintain the killing schedule.

IN the Hamburg Zyklon B Trial (1946), testimonies from SS personnel and suppliers, such as Bruno Tesch, confirmed that Zyklon B was used in a way that minimized handling time. The canisters were designed for quick opening and emptying, and the wire mesh columns allowed for easy access to any remaining material post-gassing, as described by witnesses.

The wire mesh columns were a critical innovation in Crematoria II and III, allowing SS personnel to insert Zyklon B and retrieve any residues from outside the chamber, minimizing exposure and speeding up the process. Most Zyklon B pellets vaporized during the gassing, leaving little residue, but the columns ensured any remaining material could be cleared quickly to prepare for the next cycle.

Inventory Number 933: This blueprint, preserved in the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum archives, depicts the basement plan of Crematorium II (Leichenkeller 1, the gas chamber). It shows four square openings in the roof, corresponding to the locations of the wire mesh columns used for Zyklon B insertion. These openings, approximately 70 cm x 70 cm, were fitted with gas-tight lids and connected to wire mesh columns extending from the roof to the floor.

Drawing 2003 (December 19, 1942): This technical drawing details the cross-section of Crematorium II, including the ventilation system and the roof openings. The columns, referred to as "Drahtnetzeinschiebevorrichtung" (wire mesh insertion devices) in related SS correspondence, are indicated as hollow structures designed to hold Zyklon B pellets and allow for their retrieval. The design shows an inner removable core or basket-like structure within the columns, which facilitated the removal of any residual Zyklon B material after gassing.

Inventory Number 2197: This blueprint for Crematorium III mirrors the design of Crematorium II, confirming the consistent use of four wire mesh columns in the gas chamber. The columns’ placement and structure are explicitly marked.

After the Nazis demolished Crematoria II and III in 1944–1945, investigators found physical evidence of the roof openings in the collapsed concrete slabs. For example, a 1945 Soviet investigation and later studies by the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum identified four holes in the roof of Crematorium II’s gas chamber, matching the blueprint specifications.

What are the objections to this?

HansHill wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:25 pm
"They mistakenly made up the Holocaust"

What am I reading

I'm creating a new thread for this

ConfusedJew wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:25 pm The Chemistry of Auschwitz by Carlo Mattogno

What are the objections to this?

Ask me how I know you don't know what you are talking about.

ConfusedJew wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 11:25 pm What are the objections to this?

It is likely that much of what you just posted is AI hallucination, evident by the fact that you repeatedly use AI without verifying and never bother to check or provide the sources.

Provide actual links/citations of some kind for each of your claims, otherwise STFU.

"The 'final solution' of the Jewish question meant the complete extermination of all Jews in Europe. I was ordered to establish extermination facilities at Auschwitz in June 1941. At that time, there were already in the General Government three other extermination camps: Belzek, Treblinka, and Wolzek. These camps were under the Einsatzkommando of the Security Police and SD. I visited Treblinka to find out how they carried out their exterminations. The camp commandant at Treblinka told me that he had liquidated 80,000 in the course of onehalf year. He was principally concerned with liquidating all the Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto. He used monoxide gas, and I did not think that his methods were very efficient. So when I set up the extermination building at Auschwitz, I used Cyklon B. which was a crystallized prussic acid which we dropped into the death chamber from a small opening. It took from 3 to 15 minutes to kill the people in the death chamber, depending upon climatic conditions. We knew when the people were dead because their screaming stopped. We usually waited about onehalf hour before we opened the doors and removed the bodies. After the bodies were removed our special Kommandos took off the rings and extracted the gold from the teeth of the corpses."

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/04-15-46.asp

Nuremberg Trial Proceedings - RUDOLF FRANZ FERDINAND HOESS

Here is some other evidence from 1943

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... s-1943.jpg

Why did they install gas tight doors on all the gas chambers?

https://www.auschwitz.org/en/stop-denia ... -chambers/

There is an inventory dated March 3, 1943, written at the time Crema/Gas Chamber 2 was formally completed, which lists “4 Drahtnetzeinschiebvorrichtung.” This word translates into “wire-mesh insertion device” or “wire-mesh introduction device.”

https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/a ... h-columns/

Been covered, the wire mesh insertion devices were installed in LK-2, and were basically high end air filters.

Mr Hill has an advertisement kicking around some place.

Basically all of the so called 'criminal traces' have been thoroughly investigated and they are basically just mistranslations, intent assigned were none in fact exists, completely innocuous and not what they are purported to be.

/shrug

If you don't like pellets all over the floor of the 'death chamber' (for obvious reasons), take it up with the sonderkommando who gave testimony.

Besides, none of the Kula's Columns stuff makes a damn bit of difference with any of the other supposed homicidal gas chambers.

Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:39 am Been covered, the wire mesh insertion devices were installed in LK-2, and were basically high end air filters.

Mr Hill has an advertisement kicking around some place.

Basically all of the so called 'criminal traces' have been thoroughly investigated and they are basically just mistranslations, intent assigned were none in fact exists, completely innocuous and not what they are purported to be.

/shrug

If you don't like pellets all over the floor of the 'death chamber' (for obvious reasons), take it up with the sonderkommando who gave testimony.

Besides, none of the Kula's Columns stuff makes a damn bit of difference with any of the other supposed homicidal gas chambers.

How do you argue that? How do you dispute Kula's very specific testimony? The intellectual acrobats that go on here are still surprising to me.