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Re: Hitler did not start ww2

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 10:18 pm
by Hektor
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2026 12:45 pm ....
It refers to a statement Winston Churchill made during the ‘phony war’ period.

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The problem with such statements is there verifiability or lack thereof. What can be shown is however statements Churchill put into writing... And they show he pushed for war and tried to provoke German reactions....

Re: Hitler did not start ww2

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 8:30 am
by Wahrheitssucher
Hektor wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 10:18 pm
Wahrheitssucher wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2026 12:45 pm ....
It refers to a statement Winston Churchill made during the ‘phony war’ period.

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The problem with such statements is there verifiability or lack thereof. What can be shown however, is statements Churchill put into writing... And they show he pushed for war and tried to provoke German reactions....
What “can be shown”is we are not given the whole story.
What “can be shown” is that the current ‘history’ is a calculated LIE BY OMISSION.

What “can be shown” is that Adolf Hitler did NOT want another war, tried hard to avoid one, and so can not fairly or honestly be said to have started WW2.

Apparently the source for this alleged Churchill quote is David Irving.

Irving claimed that Churchill said this to JFK’s father, Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. who was US Ambassador in London at the time, during this ‘phoney war’ period.
Irving claimed the quote appears in Kennedy's writings so presumably his diaries. As far as I know, Irving did not provide a verifiable archival citation. But I haven’t read Irving’s voluminous work on Churchill.
Have you?
Churchill's War (1987) ISBN 0-947117-56-3: (in 4 parts).

Churchill's War Volume II: Triumph in Adversity (1997) ISBN 1-872197-15-9: (in 3 parts)
If it is an actual, genuine quote, it is not at all surprising that court-historians have not highlighted it nor regurgitated it in their own writings of the period.
So the fact that no other historian has admitted to looking for it and to have checked whether it exists in Joe Kennedy’s papers, is actually support for its genuiness. Otherwise it would be raised high as proof David Irving isn’t an honest or trustworthy historian.

That it hasn’t been raised at all, suggests the quote IS in Joe’s writings.

It appears to be similar to Forrestal’s quote, ALSO from Joe Kennedy.
Court-historians do not highlight and regurgitate that quote either.

The reason for avoiding mentioning BOTH quotes is obvious: they demonstrate that IT WAS NOT ADOLF H WHO WANTED NOR STARTED WW2.
This Churchill quote — if genuine — further corroborates the view that Churchill goaded Germany into escalating the war, because he NEEDED the Americans to join it on his side, otherwise by 1941 he had lost the war he helped start.
BRITISH PRIME MINISTER Neville Chamberlain told Joseph Kennedy, then US Ambassador to Great Britain, that “America and the world Jews” pushed Britain and Germany into war with one another.
This exchange was documented in The Forrestal Diaries, the published journal of the first US Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal.

US Jews, including William Bullitt, used economic and political leverage to foment an Anglo-German war.

The following is an excerpt of The Forrestal Diaries:

Played golf today with Joe Kennedy [Joseph Kennedy, US Ambassador to Great Britain right before World War II and father of future US President John F. Kennedy]. I asked him about his conversations with Roosevelt and Neville Chamberlain from 1938 on. He said Chamberlain’s position in 1938 was that England had nothing with which to fight and that she could not risk going to war with Hitler.

Kennedy’s view: that Hitler would have fought Russia without any later conflict with England if it had not been for Bullitt’s [William C. Bullitt, US Jewish diplomat, descendant of Hyam Saloman, then US Ambassador to France] urging on Roosevelt in the summer of 1939 that the Germans must be faced down about Poland; neither the French nor the British would have made Poland a cause of war if it had not been for the constant needling from Washington.

Bullitt, he said, kept telling Roosevelt that the Germans wouldn’t fight, Kennedy that they would, and that they would overrun Europe. Chamberlain, he says, stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war. In his telephone conversation with Roosevelt in the summer of 1939 the President kept telling him to put some iron up Chamberlain’s backside. Kennedy’s response always was that putting iron up his backside did no good unless the British had some iron with which to fight, and they did not…


To summarize, Forrestal is saying that at the height of positive Anglo-German relations in 1938, US and world Jews in general were working to destroy those relations. In particular, US Jew and envoy, William C. Bullitt, was striving to undermine peace between Britain and Germany. Bullitt put pressure on Roosevelt to harden US diplomacy toward Germany. His pressure on Roosevelt succeeded in putting pressure on Britain. The aim of US and world Jewry was to use Poland to commit Britain to go to war against Germany.

In Freedom Betrayed, by Herbert Hoover, Bullitt is recounted pressuring Poland to refuse a deal of any sort with Hitler that would peacefully return Danzig to Germany:

Further American activities were disclosed after the Germans had invaded Poland in September 1939 and seized the Polish Foreign Office records. The Germans released a mass of documents which certainly indicated that the American Ambassador to France, William C. Bullitt, who could only act on Mr. Roosevelt’s authority, had made a profusion of oral assurances to officials of Poland and France which they could only interpret as a promise of assistance of some kind of force from the United States.

Bullitt left no doubt of the intended effect of US foreign policy toward Britain, Poland, and Germany. US would push Britain into a suicidal war, and the US would finish it:

As Ambassador Bullitt puts it:
“If a war breaks out, we probably would not participate in it at the beginning, but we would finish it.”

[continued here: https://nationalvanguard.org/2016/05/am ... recounted/ ]