The CODOH Revisionist Forum

Thank you for the reading assignments Sir, I will chew on this. There's, quite a bit here.

Well, I keep ruminating on the stuff I've been able to download and collect so far. It is apparent to me that I need to continue to tune my OCR/translation method. It doesn't help that when I am going through some of the documents don't make any sense. Then I come to find out, the translation is bad, like my German (I can basically order a beer).

My 'personal problems' to the side, I'm interested in Transport Documents and camp strengths over time. Are these available? I've been directed by AI to look at R-5 and R-19. Also RH 20 and RH 21. These could be hallucinations, because I can't find any of them listed.

Any help is welcome, thank you for your time.

Stubble wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 7:28 pm Well, I keep ruminating on the stuff I've been able to download and collect so far. It is apparent to me that I need to continue to tune my OCR/translation method. It doesn't help that when I am going through some of the documents don't make any sense. Then I come to find out, the translation is bad, like my German (I can basically order a beer).

My 'personal problems' to the side, I'm interested in Transport Documents and camp strengths over time. Are these available? I've been directed by AI to look at R-5 and R-19. Also RH 20 and RH 21. These could be hallucinations, because I can't find any of them listed.

Any help is welcome, thank you for your time.

The signature trunks are not particular helpfull without further file indices.

RH 20: ~ 130000 files of Armeeoberkommando at Bundesarchiv Freiburg (digitalization degree ~10%)
RH 21: ~ 3000 files of Panzerarmeeoberkomando at Bundesarchiv Freiburg (digitalization degree ~ 50%)
R 5: ~ 12000 files of Reichsverkehrsministerium at Bundesarchiv Berlin
R 19: ~ 55000 files of Hauptamt Ordnungspolizei at Bundesarchiv Berlin

Might be more efficient to look for literature on the subject and look at specific files cited there.

Thanks Hans.

I'm certainly open to suggested reading. Do you have any recommendations for literature that is 'built from source' using German Wartime Documents to ascertain camp populations and demographics over time along with transports into an then within the camp system?

I'm all ears.

Also any means for procurement of R 5 is welcome. I'd settle for the finding aid to start, I might not need the whole collection. I basically just want records for arrival/departure for the Bug river camps currently. I also need to figure out who was responsible for the lines further east. I need their records too.

I want to find record of the transport Wiernik reports leaving Treblinka II full of half naked jews prior to his arrival for example. They were said to be 'headed North'.

I'm working on translating this article "Liquidation of Jewish Warsaw" that Graf/Mattogno (HH #8) references for the transports to Treblinka.

But this is sourced from the Ringelblum Archive in Warsaw, and is just a numerical total of people who were deported from Warsaw on each day.

Who says any of these people went to T-II? Or T-I? Or even Treblinka train station? Or even any part of the Treblinka settlement? Or south from Malkinia at all? Or to Malkinia at all? A handful of surviving Fahrplananordnung documents include the word "Treblinka," and that's it?

The people who say this are "eyewitnesses" who "escaped" "Treblinka" and made it back to Warsaw to report to the Ringelblum Archive group, where their accounts were written down for them by a collaborative group.

And of course, this 1951 reprint of a Ringelblum Archive document says this on the very first page:

The roar of the steam engine, pumping superheated steam into the execution chambers, never ceased.

The article also references numbers on a map, but the map isn't included and doesn't match any of the maps I've seen yet (or can find right now).

This is turning into a closed circle around the Ringelblum/Warsaw conspiracists.

pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 6:00 pm This is turning into a closed circle around the Ringelblum/Warsaw conspiracists.

I echo your assessment Sir, hence my quest for transport records, quixotic as it may be.

Also, are any of these timetable documents available for review? If so, would you kindly point in their direction? I'd be in your debt.