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Re: Survivors of several (death) camps

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2026 11:55 am
by Eye of Zyclone
borjastick wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 11:56 am Thanks to Eye of Zyclone for this post. I hadn't seen this before and it made me think. It cuts right to the bone on the issue of the claims of 'death camps' and the reality as we know it of the German camps such as Belsen and Buchenwald to name just two.
You're very welcome, borjastick. :)

Re: Survivors of several (death) camps

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2026 2:28 pm
by Hektor
TlsMS93 wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 8:53 pm
Hektor wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 8:14 pm
"Selections", supposedly for homicidal purposes, played a major role in the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial.
Plenty of Holocaust Survivors have tales about Dr. Mengele, but my guess would be that they simply were medically examined by someone and called him Mengele later. Treblinka lore has it that virtually al Jews were sent to the gas chamber without selection. And this frames the views with plenty of the folks that were indoctrinate with Holocaust lore....
Unless they predicted, based on absolutely nothing, that all Jews in the General Government were unfit for work and thus wouldn't have called for selections in the Reinhardt camps.

The fact that they didn't brutally undermines this tradition of "selections for the left meant they went to the showers." Or, the alleged existence of these in the Western camps was a purely sanitary and organizational procedure. As we said, Germany, as an industrial nation and at the forefront of health and hygiene, was subject to being a victim of narratives of atrocities of this kind. If it was an industrial nation, then it practiced an industrial-concept genocide; if it cared about hygiene, then it made soap from human fat. In other words, much prejudice permeated the perception of what occurred in the camps, and the era of treating Germans as demons was open to the world.
That's what the charge is "Industrial extermination" of Jews... And in the light of all evidences presented that charge is obviously false... Nevertheless there are several malicious or misled individuals and groups that still try to push that accusation...

Re: Survivors of several (death) camps

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:37 am
by Hektor
Indeed, lots of the Holocaust narrative rests on conflation... And people not thinking things through before judging. It appeals to the nasty habit of people putting themselves into the judgment seat to condemn others morally, especially rather depraved individuals tend to do that. It gives a sense of moral self-assurance, when they can judge others... And Holocaust propaganda is designed to do exactly do that. Let the audience empathize with the supposed victims, and hate and judge the supposed villains. That's also the reason why Holocaust lore is so cartoonish in character.

Re: Survivors of several (death) camps

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:59 pm
by Eye of Zyclone
borjastick wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 11:56 am Thanks to Eye of Zyclone for this post. I hadn't seen this before and it made me think. It cuts right to the bone on the issue of the claims of 'death camps' and the reality as we know it of the German camps such as Belsen and Buchenwald to name just two.

My point being those damn Germans were able to magically incinerate or somehow disappear millions of dead jews they had gassed in gas chambers that have never been shown to exist, and in the face of long distance supply routes and an ever encroaching Russian army in a war the Germans were losing, yet in the camps on their own doorstep with far fewer corpses to deal with they couldn't do the same.
Good to explain that those efficient and orderly Germans had just "forgotten" to equip 2 thirds of their alleged death camps (Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor and Chelmno) with crematories !! They realized, we're told, that buried corpses don't dissolve like sugar cubes in water only when they found the executed Poles who had been buried by the Soviets in the Katyn forest ! 100% ridiculous and hilarious... :lol: