Where Myths Meet Their Demise
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I do not think you recognize how ridiculous this statement is. Geez.
This is 'tu quoque', a fallacy -- therefore invalid. You have deflected from your inability to provide any list of similar organizations (in characteristics and in scale) for any other group that you deflect onto. I have shown 100% that Jews have a unique organizational system that is extraordinary in scale. I have shown Jewish federations united by centralized federation entities, numerous massive special interest groups united not by religion but by tribalism and socio-political interests (and these united by parent organizations), extremist sects which operate in 86 countries out of more than 3,500 facilities implemented by a cultish network of married couple designees, and the fact that Jews have always had extreme disproportionate control in other key institutions such as a near-monopoly of the CEO and chairperson positions in every major media conglomerate.Nessie wrote:You are doing the same thing with Holocaust debates, you ignore that you should be able to evidence what happened, if there were no mass murders. You miss out a vital part of the enquiry. In this thread, it is claimed that criticism of Jews as a collective is warranted, because they act collectively so often. But, you then fail to prove that they do act collectively, more so than any other comparable group of people. Basically, as you do with the Holocaust, you are making mistakes with how you investigate and evidence.
Which other religions do as well.Callafangers wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:47 pmI do not think you recognize how ridiculous this statement is. Geez.
I excluded religion (synagogues) in order to show that Jews are not just a religion and that they are organizing to develop networks of social and political power, reflecting their group cohesion far beyond any mere religious faith or fellowship. This is admitted repeatedly in their own organizational mission statements.
I don't need to resort to childish comments.Nessie, you are crapping your pants and it stinks.
It is not a fallacy to point out a flaw in your evidence gathering. You only select evidence that confirms what you want to believe.This is 'tu quoque', a fallacy -- therefore invalid.Nessie wrote:You are doing the same thing with Holocaust debates, you ignore that you should be able to evidence what happened, if there were no mass murders. You miss out a vital part of the enquiry. In this thread, it is claimed that criticism of Jews as a collective is warranted, because they act collectively so often. But, you then fail to prove that they do act collectively, more so than any other comparable group of people. Basically, as you do with the Holocaust, you are making mistakes with how you investigate and evidence.
No you have not, because you have made no effort to check to see if other religions, or collectives, also create organisations. Instead, you demand that I do it, to prove you wrong.You have deflected from your inability to provide any list of similar organizations (in characteristics and in scale) for any other group that you deflect onto. I have shown 100% that Jews have a unique organizational system that is extraordinary in scale.
IOW, you are assuming the result you want. You cannot be bothered to evidence it. That inability to understand evidencing and basing your beliefs on assumption, is why you fall for hoaxes, such as Holocaust Denial.I have shown Jewish federations united by centralized federation entities, numerous massive special interest groups united not by religion but by tribalism and socio-political interests (and these united by parent organizations), extremist sects which operate in 86 countries out of more than 3,500 facilities implemented by a cultish network of married couple designees, and the fact that Jews have always had extreme disproportionate control in other key institutions such as a near-monopoly of the CEO and chairperson positions in every major media conglomerate.
Nessie, are you going to keep shitting your pants, or do you have comparable examples for any other group or religion? But remember, you do not have to only prove that a similar type and number of such organizations exist for a given religion or group, say, Christianity. You have to account for proportionality (per capita), to capture the real truth of the matter.
Good luck.
It also hilariously demonstrates the point rather than disproves it. Despite Christian countries having Christian interests, they are mostly powerless to actually enforce poltical or societal influence in the West (ie, powerless to stop abortion, gay marriage, transgenderism, ME wars and so on and so forth).Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 7:56 am Nessie's latest spam is a lazy Wikipedia dump of Catholic groups
Catholics/Christians also have dozens or hundreds of different national interests -- that accounts for dozens or hundreds of different tribal interests, bound only by their religious faith (and even that is fragmented into many denominations having little or connection to one another, especially across national borders). Note that there are hardly any parent organizations for these Catholic groups on the list, let alone ones which unite them along social and political lines intent on things like political subversion or empowerment, loyalty to a given foreign nation, media control, etc.HansHill wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 8:08 amIt also hilariously demonstrates the point rather than disproves it. Despite Christian countries having Christian interests, they are mostly powerless to actually enforce poltical or societal influence in the West (ie, powerless to stop abortion, gay marriage, transgenderism, ME wars and so on and so forth).Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 7:56 am Nessie's latest spam is a lazy Wikipedia dump of Catholic groups
Thanks for demonstrating the point, Nessie.
Strictly speaking that "parent organization" for Catholicism is the RCC itself, but yes your point is valid and well made in this context.Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 8:15 am Note that there are hardly any parent organizations for these Catholic groups on the list, let alone ones which unite them along social and political lines intent on things like political subversion or empowerment, loyalty to a given foreign nation, media control, etc.
Fair point, well-taken, I may have questions at some point. Will check out the book as time permits.HansHill wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 8:31 am Strictly speaking that "parent organization" for Catholicism is the RCC itself, but yes your point is valid and well made in this context.
The RCC is actually my main area of focus away from this board, with specific focus on Vatican II. For anybody new to this topic, an excellent primer on this, from a Revisionist-friendly perspective is the below:
Most of what I linked to, are political lobbying groups, political parties and organisations to promote the socio-political influence of the RC church. How many Jewish political parties are there across the world's Parliaments, let alone Jewish parties that can form the government? I only listed one part of that list. The RC Church dominates politics in many countries.Callafangers wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 7:56 am Nessie's latest spam is a lazy Wikipedia dump of Catholic groups -- mostly religious orders, charities, and advocacy tied to Catholic faith-based doctrine (e.g., anti-abortion, social justice per Vatican BS). Compare that to Jewish federations: centralized, global networks explicitly for "Jewish empowerment," lobbying, media control, and Israel advocacy, raising billions annually. Not remotely the same scope or intent.
I've challenged you to provide reasonable comparisons (non-religious, tribal/ethnic power networks for other groups), and you've dodged, obviously because they DO NOT EXIST at this scale. Show me a "Christian Federation of North America" raising just $3B/year for "global Christian unity and influence" -- but wait -- you'd need to actually show one of something like $90B+ a year, since there are 30x as many Christians in the USA as there are Jews (and closer to 300x or so globally, so... more like $$$ Trillions $$$ -- no joke, yet you provide nothing at all).
I've evidenced Jewish collective cohesion via unique, massive, interconnected networks prioritizing tribal power over host-nation interests. These groups overall (per their own mission statements) aren't advocating anything for America nor American people (nor for their relations globally), nor Britain nor British people, etc., unless by circumstance or coincidence in their efforts and advocacy for Jews and Israel. You can take that to the bank (where you'll also find Jews). This warrants criticism, especially when tied to the 'Holocaust' -- one of many narratives Jews collectively promote to shield their interests.
You've provided zero comparable evidence for other groups, just deflections and copes. Your pants? Still crapping. Peepee too.