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Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:35 pm
by curioussoul
Nessie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:16 pm
curioussoul wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:15 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:56 pm
My eyes. I can see that the distance is too far to make out what was being burnt to cause any smoke, or if people were being shot. Maybe your eyes are better.
Your eyes are not an authority on the usefulness of aerial reconnaissance photographs, especially given your age.
I do not believe that anyone could make out what is being burnt, or people being shot, from the height the photos were taken.
Argument from incredulity and appeal to personal opinion. Try again, Nessie. You can't authoritatively assert things based on fallacies and personal opinion and then expect people to just believe you. Come on.
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:48 pm
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:35 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:16 pm
curioussoul wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:15 pm
Your eyes are not an authority on the usefulness of aerial reconnaissance photographs, especially given your age.
I do not believe that anyone could make out what is being burnt, or people being shot, from the height the photos were taken.
Argument from incredulity and appeal to personal opinion. Try again, Nessie. You can't authoritatively assert things based on fallacies and personal opinion and then expect people to just believe you. Come on.
Anyone viewing the aerial photos will agree with me and think you are making rather strange arguments. You would not be able to say what was being burnt or if people were being shot, from those aerial photos.
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:45 pm
by curioussoul
Nessie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:48 pm
curioussoul wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:35 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:16 pm
I do not believe that anyone could make out what is being burnt, or people being shot, from the height the photos were taken.
Argument from incredulity and appeal to personal opinion. Try again, Nessie. You can't authoritatively assert things based on fallacies and personal opinion and then expect people to just believe you. Come on.
You would not be able to say what was being burnt or if people were being shot, from those aerial photos.
Again, argument from incredulity. Try again without the fallacy.
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:21 am
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:45 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:48 pm
curioussoul wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:35 pm
Argument from incredulity and appeal to personal opinion. Try again, Nessie. You can't authoritatively assert things based on fallacies and personal opinion and then expect people to just believe you. Come on.
You would not be able to say what was being burnt or if people were being shot, from those aerial photos.
Again, argument from incredulity. Try again without the fallacy.
No one can tell what is being burnt in this aerial photo;

Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 8:41 pm
by curioussoul
Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:21 am
curioussoul wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:45 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:48 pm
You would not be able to say what was being burnt or if people were being shot, from those aerial photos.
Again, argument from incredulity. Try again without the fallacy.
No one can tell what is being burnt in this aerial photo;
Tellingly, that's not a photo of Babi Yar, nor is the question whether or not one can identify what is being burnt, but whether or not any human activity is taking place whatsoever, let alone burnings. Awkwardly, the aerial photos of Babi Yar show no such activity at all, despite an allegedly massive operation for cremating corpses being carried out.
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 7:33 am
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: ↑Sun May 11, 2025 8:41 pm
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Tellingly, that's not a photo of Babi Yar, nor is the question whether or not one can identify what is being burnt, but whether or not any human activity is taking place whatsoever, let alone burnings. Awkwardly, the aerial photos of Babi Yar show no such activity at all, despite an allegedly massive operation for cremating corpses being carried out.
Can you show evidence of an aerial photo that was taken on a day the graves were being exhumed and corpses cremated?
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Mon May 12, 2025 11:36 am
by Stubble
That's already been done for the photo in the OP. Right time, right place, not there.
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 7:48 pm
by curioussoul
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 7:33 am
curioussoul wrote: ↑Sun May 11, 2025 8:41 pm
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Tellingly, that's not a photo of Babi Yar, nor is the question whether or not one can identify what is being burnt, but whether or not any human activity is taking place whatsoever, let alone burnings. Awkwardly, the aerial photos of Babi Yar show no such activity at all, despite an allegedly massive operation for cremating corpses being carried out.
Can you show evidence of an aerial photo that was taken on a day the graves were being exhumed and corpses cremated?
The aerial photos of Babi Yar were taken on a day when a massive corpse cremation operation was allegedly underway, despite the aerial photos showing no sign whatsoever of this supposed operation.
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 6:54 am
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 7:48 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 7:33 am
curioussoul wrote: ↑Sun May 11, 2025 8:41 pm
...
Tellingly, that's not a photo of Babi Yar, nor is the question whether or not one can identify what is being burnt, but whether or not any human activity is taking place whatsoever, let alone burnings. Awkwardly, the aerial photos of Babi Yar show no such activity at all, despite an allegedly massive operation for cremating corpses being carried out.
Can you show evidence of an aerial photo that was taken on a day the graves were being exhumed and corpses cremated?
The aerial photos of Babi Yar were taken on a day when a massive corpse cremation operation was allegedly underway, despite the aerial photos showing no sign whatsoever of this supposed operation.
Which means there was no activity at the time the planes flew over, or activity was suspended.
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 10:09 pm
by curioussoul
Nessie wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 6:54 am
curioussoul wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 7:48 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 7:33 am
Can you show evidence of an aerial photo that was taken on a day the graves were being exhumed and corpses cremated?
The aerial photos of Babi Yar were taken on a day when a massive corpse cremation operation was allegedly underway, despite the aerial photos showing no sign whatsoever of this supposed operation.
Which means there was no activity at the time the planes flew over, or activity was suspended.
This is what I mean when I say you've fundamentally misunderstood the historical method. You've just been confronted with evidence that the mass cremation operation at Babi Yar never happened. Just claiming without evidence that "activity was suspended" isn't how science or history works, you do realize that, right? In this thread alone you've been guilty of multiple basic fallacies, including most egregiously argument from incredulity.
Re: Babi Yar Air Photos
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 6:45 am
by Nessie
curioussoul wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 10:09 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 6:54 am
curioussoul wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 7:48 pm
The aerial photos of Babi Yar were taken on a day when a massive corpse cremation operation was allegedly underway, despite the aerial photos showing no sign whatsoever of this supposed operation.
Which means there was no activity at the time the planes flew over, or activity was suspended.
This is what I mean when I say you've fundamentally misunderstood the historical method. You've just been confronted with evidence that the mass cremation operation at Babi Yar never happened. Just claiming without evidence that "activity was suspended" isn't how science or history works, you do realize that, right? In this thread alone you've been guilty of multiple basic fallacies, including most egregiously argument from incredulity.
One aerial photo is not enough to prove there were no mass exhumations and cremations at Babi Yar.