pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:14 pm
Some of them had likely died by 1939-1941. Others had been sentenced to prison terms that extended to or past 1939. No idea what Warsaw's policies were for early release, "good time," parole, etc., so it's speculative whether they were actually still imprisoned.
Aron Cukier may have served his full sentence from 1936-1943, because according to files at Arolsen he was first sent to a camp in 1944. He went to Auschwitz, then Mauthausen in 1945. He survived and was tracked as a DP until 1949. Contradicting that, he is also listed as a victim on a memorial at Ebensee, which was part of the Mauthausen complex.
Nazgul wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:56 pm
He was a spy. It appears from the first map given by him, he is describing the Malkinia camp; here is the aerial view of that camp compared with Wierniks first map. He of course altered the future maps to align with the morphing of the stories.
Nazgul, do you perhaps have a link (or recall where I might locate) the source for the Malkinia air photo image shown above?
Here is the same comparison with clearer images. Source for Malkinia is Rudolf's Air-Photo Evidence. Nazgul could have a point, with that road going through the camp, but I'm not sure what the origin for this specific diagram is.
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pilgrimofdark wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:14 pm
Some of them had likely died by 1939-1941. Others had been sentenced to prison terms that extended to or past 1939. No idea what Warsaw's policies were for early release, "good time," parole, etc., so it's speculative whether they were actually still imprisoned.
Aron Cukier may have served his full sentence from 1936-1943, because according to files at Arolsen he was first sent to a camp in 1944. He went to Auschwitz, then Mauthausen in 1945. He survived and was tracked as a DP until 1949. Contradicting that, he is also listed as a victim on a memorial at Ebensee, which was part of the Mauthausen complex.
I went back and looked more carefully at the papers. The people I thought were in their 80s were actually in their 30s. So poor OCR while going through a bunch of files, but correcting as much corruption as I can now.
A clarification from the article, Wiernik was using 2 typewriters, Rozenbaum had a printing press in his shoe factory.
It is important to establish Wiernik as the Wiernik in question. This would be easy via a bookings photograph if he was indeed arrested in the sweep.
I have no idea how to get that information.
Going through the Polish Federal Archives with a search for his last name, I didn't turn up arrest records, although, I did turn up stuff linking him to Lodz in the '20's.
I'll try to keep digging with you guys.
I must admit, this is more rewarding than winnowing the mundane looking for missing jews.
Also might be worth trying to establish the connection with his handler prior to the war. This may come through looking at a figure like Rokhl Auerbakh. She arrived in Warsaw in '33 and I am going to guess that the circle she ended up in had overlap.
Looking for a parallel for their clandestine activities, if I were trying to describe what I am beginning to see, I'd think of it kind of like the weather underground. You've got academics, people in the news, all the way down to a simple shoemaker and a humble carpenter, I mean, hat salesman.
If I were to guess why no t4 personnel were chosen to perform gassing that had experience with gassing, it would be because THERE WERE NONE.