Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 4:03 am
100% agree. Just pointing out that there is UN Policy White Paper that states the Holocaust is to be used to promote open boarders and globalism.
This dovetails with 'free trade' and the domination of industry and erosion of sovereignty as well as exploitation of cheap labor and tighter controls on employment.
Add to that the importation of these coolies and you are left with quite the mix, and on paper, you can make things look a-ok while Americans tread mill themselves to death as simple wage slaves, owning nothing, and never happy...
To quote Ecclesiastes, nothing is new under the sun.
IMO, it indeed dovetails with 'free trade' and cheap labor but is above all about getting rid of Jewry's one and only rival for world domination (Tikkun olam ethnic cleansing through heavily promoted racial dilution and artificially undermined birth rates) - the White Man.
"Tikun Olam (Repairing the World)" - is a concept in Judaism. Hence this clearly is a religious teaching. But the Holocaust is that as well. And so we got more evidence there that gov. funded "Holocaust Education" is teaching kids a religions the parents never subscribed, too.
IMO, it indeed dovetails with 'free trade' and cheap labor but is above all about getting rid of Jewry's one and only rival for world domination (Tikkun olam ethnic cleansing through heavily promoted racial dilution and artificially undermined birth rates) - the White Man.
"Tikun Olam (Repairing the World)" - is a concept in Judaism. Hence this clearly is a religious teaching. But the Holocaust is that as well. And so we got more evidence there that gov. funded "Holocaust Education" is teaching kids a religions the parents never subscribed, too.
Thanks for posting that link, Hektor. The United Nations organization recently removed that paper from its website (other link now dead). Just shows how relevant and embarrassing it is...
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:22 pm
by Stubble
The live link I provided to the pdf is from the UN website EoZ.
Thing is, the paper is no longer viewable and has to be downloaded.
This happens with their papers as they publish new content.
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:13 am
by Eye of Zyclone
Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:22 pm
The live link I provided to the pdf is from the UN website EoZ.
Thing is, the paper is no longer viewable and has to be downloaded.
This happens with their papers as they publish new content.
OK, I see. I didn't know that they remove their old papers as they publish new content.
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:24 am
by Stubble
Again, it hasn't actually been removed. It is simply no longer viewable as a page and must be downloaded as a pdf.
Not trying to quibble, I just think it is important to note, there is nothing up my sleeve. This isn't a redirect to an alternative website or anything or a questionable archive.
The fruit is straight from the vine as it were.
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:09 am
by Eye of Zyclone
Stubble wrote: ↑Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:24 am
Again, it hasn't actually been removed. It is simply no longer viewable as a page and must be downloaded as a pdf.
Not trying to quibble, I just think it is important to note, there is nothing up my sleeve. This isn't a redirect to an alternative website or anything or a questionable archive.
The fruit is straight from the vine as it were.
This is how I had understood your previous comment. Thanks for the clarification anyway.
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:04 pm
by Stubble
Going back to the numbers, new study just dropped;
He said how many gen y and gen z believe the approved narrative? 20%?
Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Nov 18, 2025 4:03 am
100% agree. Just pointing out that there is UN Policy White Paper that states the Holocaust is to be used to promote open boarders and globalism.
This dovetails with 'free trade' and the domination of industry and erosion of sovereignty as well as exploitation of cheap labor and tighter controls on employment.
Add to that the importation of these coolies and you are left with quite the mix, and on paper, you can make things look a-ok while Americans tread mill themselves to death as simple wage slaves, owning nothing, and never happy...
To quote Ecclesiastes, nothing is new under the sun.
IMO, it indeed dovetails with 'free trade' and cheap labor but is above all about getting rid of Jewry's one and only rival for world domination (Tikkun olam ethnic cleansing through heavily promoted racial dilution and artificially undermined birth rates) - the White Man.
Interesting video I ran across that is fairly succinct and that outlines and highlights this very well, although at the time this agenda was not common knowledge.
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:20 pm
by Cowboy
New poll out of The Manhattan Institute for US GOP voters:
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Holocaust denial or minimization: Nearly four in ten in the Current GOP (37%) believe the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated or did not happen as historians describe. Younger men are especially likely to hold this view (54% of men under 50 vs. 39% of women under 50). Among men over 50, 41% agree, compared with 18% of women over 50. Racial divides are particularly striking:
Holocaust denial or minimization: Nearly four in ten in the Current GOP (37%) believe the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated or did not happen as historians describe. Younger men are especially likely to hold this view (54% of men under 50 vs. 39% of women under 50). Among men over 50, 41% agree, compared with 18% of women over 50. Racial divides are particularly striking:
77% of Hispanic GOP voters
30% of white GOP voters
66% of black GOP voters
To go along with the above:
19% of U.S. voters overall
37% of GOP voters overall
This means that Holocaust denial has become a highly partisan issue, where in the past it's usually been balanced between parties or if anything more Democrat-coded. I find this sudden transformation hard to believe.
Also these are high numbers overall. I'm skeptical that these huge proportions are real. Then again, sometimes asking a question in a different way can greatly alter survey results, and who am I to say that these results are less legitimate than those of other firms, which have used a less blunt and more scolding and authoritative question format?
Holocaust denial or minimization: Nearly four in ten in the Current GOP (37%) believe the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated or did not happen as historians describe. Younger men are especially likely to hold this view (54% of men under 50 vs. 39% of women under 50). Among men over 50, 41% agree, compared with 18% of women over 50. Racial divides are particularly striking:
77% of Hispanic GOP voters
30% of white GOP voters
66% of black GOP voters
To go along with the above:
19% of U.S. voters overall
37% of GOP voters overall
This means that Holocaust denial has become a highly partisan issue, where in the past it's usually been balanced between parties or if anything more Democrat-coded. I find this sudden transformation hard to believe.
Also these are high numbers overall. I'm skeptical that these huge proportions are real. Then again, sometimes asking a question in a different way can greatly alter survey results, and who am I to say that these results are less legitimate than those of other firms, which have used a less blunt and more scolding and authoritative question format?
Post 1995 it was seen as a settled, but mostly irrelevant issue. Holocaust education was part of the curriculum in many countries and media treated it as a fact. How this became a fact was widely ignored. In Germany it was the obnoxious show trials against former camp guards and of course the infamous soap opera Holocaust that blew it into people's mind. There were indeed even close to mainstream attempts to neutralize it (Historikerstreit), but that was squashed by the new left that understood perfectly well that the success of their agenda and hegemonic power rested upon even educated people believing the narrative. That was however a generation prior to the present. The boomers and early Gen X folks that now call the shots mostly believe it, but it seems to have changed generally among (White) folks between 20 and 40.
Bear in mind that the Holocaust served as a justification myth for most new agendas since the 1960s... including mass-immigration, sexual revolution, globalism, etc. If it collapses this will change the political landscape over time...
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2026 7:04 pm
by Wetzelrad
2026 Long Island poll of 400 registered voters carried out by McLaughlin & Associates. https://www.scribd.com/document/1026954 ... April-2026
6% said No and 12% said DK/Refused to "The Holocaust occurred as presented by historians."
6% said Yes and 9% said DK/Refused to "details of The Holocaust has been exaggerated."
7% said Yes and 5% said DK/Refused to "too much has been made of The Holocaust".
6% said Yes and 3% said DK/Refused to "watching a documentary on the Holocaust... cause[d] you to doubt the information about the Holocaust that was presented in the documentary".
11% said Yes and 16% said DK/Refused to "Are Jews too focused on the legacy of the Holocaust?"
14% said Yes and 17% said DK/Refused to "Should Jews move on from focusing on the Holocaust?"
It appears that answers of DK/Refused were used in lieu of the politically incorrect or denial-coded answers. Where the question was not controversial DK/Refused was only 1%, but for controversial questions it rose, and afterward it fell again.
The included crosstab-like demographic information is similar to what I've seen in other polls. One item of note is that they included a few rows for Jews by religion and ancestry. Jews of course tended to be the strongest proponents on every question.
Another item is that the Holocaust skeptics lean toward being Unaffiliated with either party, suggestive of broader anti-establishment views or personality traits. I think they also lean Conservative, but the data isn't fully consistent.
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 5:30 am
by Hektor
If you look carefully the questions all presume that it somehow happened. So there is already a strong bias in it.
Now, we don't dispute that there were measures on Jews during WW2 by NS-Germany and Axis countries. That's not what the controversy is about. What is in dispute are allegation of
1. Policy to exterminate all or most Jews.
2. Mortally figures during WW2 in the range of 6 million.
3. Usage of unusual execution methods like homicidal gas chambers.
While Jews played a critical role in creating the Holocaust Narrative, there are other interest groups that try to rule with that stick as well. Leftist groups use it as a psychological tool to discredit non-leftist positions on cultural, social and political issues. So they help to establish Holocaust education in public schools, keep it in the media, push for 'remembrance' and infuse it in debates. The non-leftist, who seem to be incapable of challenging this get cucked and go along with this. In fact some try to use it themselves. The result is then parties like the Republicans or the CDU in Germany. Pushing through leftist agendas using conservative rhetoric. Having accepted the Holocaust narrative makes defending alternatives to the leftist salvation lore impossible.
Re: Public Sampling Data about the Holocaust
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:02 pm
by Eye of Zyclone
Hektor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 5:30 am
If you look carefully the questions all presume that it somehow happened.
