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Re: Did Polish investigations save the day?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:51 am
by Nessie
There is plenty of evidence that members of the Einsatzgruppen and AR camp staff, were telling family and friends what they were doing. Polish intelligence was generating multiple news reports all over the UK and USA, that the Nazis were murdering millions of Jews. As the war continued, the number of millions killed steadily grew, such that by 1944, the Nazis knew they would need to account for millions of Jews they had arrested, when the war had ended.

The potential save for the Nazis, was the belief that, since they had had so much cooperation from nationals in the countries they occupied and were aligned to, and there was so much anti-Semitism, they would not be held to account for what they had done.

"Where did they go?" and the so-called revisionist failure to produce a revised evidenced chronology of events, especially for 1944, is why there is no revision and what we see here is Holocaust denial. If millions had not been killed, then as Korherr was told, the Lublin district would have been packed with Jews. Instead of its population falling, from 150,000 in 1943, to 110,000 in 1944, Auschwitz would have grown and the Mexico section packed with Jews, instead of being unused. Lodz would not have been the last ghetto to close down, as the ghettos would be need to be packed. Poland, instead of c3 million Jews, would have millions more than that, since so many transports, from all over Europe, terminated in camps and ghetto in that country.

Instead, only Denmark and Finland, whose Jews had escaped to neutral Sweden, or they were protected from arrest, could account for all of their Jewish citizens in 1944. Polish intelligence was correct, millions of Jews were being transported there and murdered, along with the killing of millions of Polish Jews. The Nazis, who had taken over total control of the country, leaving no Poles in positions of authority, had the opportunity to mass murder, and they could have also easily proved they were accommodating millions of Jews, but they failed to do that.

Re: Did Polish investigations save the day?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:37 am
by Eye of Zyclone
Nessie wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:08 pm The policy was to rid Eastern Europe of Jews, and many Eastern Europeans, including Poles, approved and joined in with the killings. When Poles, Latvians, Lithuanians and Romanians join in the killing of Jews, how is that retaliation? What were they retaliating against?
The spontaneous pogroms in Eastern Europe were not part of any nonexistent/fictional extermination policy. They were just retaliation by local populations for the torture & butchering of their friends and relatives in the hands of the Judeo-Bolshevik troops that had just left those areas. And they were not perpetrated side by side with German troops. The German liberators just didn't repress that legitimate outburst of anger when it was taking place. They didn't encourage or organize it. And they didn't join in either.

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Re: Did Polish investigations save the day?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:59 am
by Nessie
Eye of Zyclone wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:37 am
Nessie wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:08 pm The policy was to rid Eastern Europe of Jews, and many Eastern Europeans, including Poles, approved and joined in with the killings. When Poles, Latvians, Lithuanians and Romanians join in the killing of Jews, how is that retaliation? What were they retaliating against?
The spontaneous pogroms in Eastern Europe were not part of any nonexistent/fictional extermination policy.
They were Eastern Europeans taking the opportunity to murder Jews.
They were just retaliation by local populations for the torture & butchering of their friends and relatives in the hands of the Judeo-Bolshevik troops that had just left those areas.
Can you evidence that? Could it not be due to existing anti-Semitism and hate? Could it be there was an opportunity to steal Jewish property?
And they were not perpetrated side by side with German troops. The German liberators just didn't repress that legitimate outburst of anger when it was taking place. They didn't encourage or organize it. And they didn't join in either.
There were instances where locals joined with the Einsatzgruppen, for example, in Latvia;

https://marksimner.me.uk/sonderkommando ... holocaust/

"Arājs Kommando ... in late November and early December it was employed in one of the largest mass executions carried out by the Einsatzgruppen. During the operation, around 24,000 Jews from the Riga Ghetto were mercilessly slaughtered in the Rumbula Forest just outside the city."
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It is a common so-called revisionist deception, to claim that the Soviet Union and its leaders were Jewish. If that was the case, why did Stalin never refer to Jewish suffering and why was there no Soviet memorial to, or history of the Holocaust? Why was that left to the Polish?

Re: Did Polish investigations save the day?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 10:49 pm
by slob
Portadown News - Friday 30 October 1981
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Saturday 15 July 1989
Aberdeen Press and Journal
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Still prattling on about 4 million well into the 1990s in some UK newspapers.
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co. ... lse&page=1

Re: Did Polish investigations save the day?

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 2:19 am
by Eye of Zyclone
Nessie wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:59 am
Eye of Zyclone wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:37 am
Nessie wrote: Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:08 pm The policy was to rid Eastern Europe of Jews, and many Eastern Europeans, including Poles, approved and joined in with the killings. When Poles, Latvians, Lithuanians and Romanians join in the killing of Jews, how is that retaliation? What were they retaliating against?
The spontaneous pogroms in Eastern Europe were not part of any nonexistent/fictional extermination policy.
They were Eastern Europeans taking the opportunity to murder Jews.
Or just survivors going after the race fellows of those who had just tortured and murdered their friends and relatives.

Nessie wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:59 am
They were just retaliation by local populations for the torture & butchering of their friends and relatives in the hands of the Judeo-Bolshevik troops that had just left those areas.
Can you evidence that? Could it not be due to existing anti-Semitism and hate? Could it be there was an opportunity to steal Jewish property?
All those jealous greedy Goyim hunting down industrious Jews to steal their honestly-earned gold and diams, what a plague! :roll:
Israeli "education" is Goyphobic to the core, isn't it?

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It is a common so-called revisionist deception, to claim that the Soviet Union and its leaders were Jewish. If that was the case, why did Stalin never refer to Jewish suffering and why was there no Soviet memorial to, or history of the Holocaust? Why was that left to the Polish?
Never mentioning Jews was the best protection ever granted to Jews. Not mentioning Jews is the best way to make the masses of Gentiles regard the Jewish problem as irrelevant or even nonexistent after a while. It's the same as with the so-called color-blind people and racism. They, and even more so their children and grandchildren, are the most racially-clueless people ever seen.

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What do you Jews want after all? To be singled out as Jews? Or to be undetected parasites left untouched by your host?

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And for info, there were many Soviet memorials to, and history of, the Holocaust. But the Soviets had a habit of mixing the fictive Jewish victims of the Holohoax and the fictive Gentile victims of the Holohoax in their home propaganda. Hence the sudden resurrection of 2.5 million fictive Auschwitz victims in 1990, when the USSR collapsed and the "state" of Israel became the sole heir of the Holocaust myth.

Re: Did Polish investigations save the day?

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 9:07 am
by Nessie
Eye of Zyclone wrote: Sat Dec 20, 2025 2:19 am
Nessie wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:59 am
Eye of Zyclone wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:37 am

The spontaneous pogroms in Eastern Europe were not part of any nonexistent/fictional extermination policy.
They were Eastern Europeans taking the opportunity to murder Jews.
Or just survivors going after the race fellows of those who had just tortured and murdered their friends and relatives.
Please evidence torture and murder by Lativan Jews, of other Latvians, after the Soviet occupation of Latvia. Then move on to other Eastern European countries. You will find no such evidence, as you lie to justify Nazi mass murders and the assistance they were given.
Nessie wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 11:59 am

Can you evidence that? Could it not be due to existing anti-Semitism and hate? Could it be there was an opportunity to steal Jewish property?
All those jealous greedy Goyim hunting down industrious Jews to steal their honestly-earned gold and diams, what a plague! :roll:
Israeli "education" is Goyphobic to the core, isn't it?

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It is a common so-called revisionist deception, to claim that the Soviet Union and its leaders were Jewish. If that was the case, why did Stalin never refer to Jewish suffering and why was there no Soviet memorial to, or history of the Holocaust? Why was that left to the Polish?
Never mentioning Jews was the best protection ever granted to Jews. Not mentioning Jews is the best way to make the masses of Gentiles regard the Jewish problem as irrelevant or even nonexistent after a while. It's the same as with the so-called color-blind people and racism. They, and even more so their children and grandchildren, are the most racially-clueless people ever seen.
You have failed to evidence Jews using the Soviet invasion to murder their fellow citizens and steal their property. It is evidenced that those citizens used the Nazi occupation as an opportunity to murder Jewish citizens and steal their property.

It is an anti-Semitic trope, to make out Bolsheviks are all Jewish, as many had orthodox Christian backgrounds, or mixed ones. The SU showed no favouritism to Jews and it largely ignored any Jewish suffering. To the Soviets, the millions the Nazis had murdered, were Polish, Latvian, Lithuanian etc, rather than Jewish.
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There was no Anti-Semitism Act in 1917. Instead, numerous restrictions on the Jews were removed.

https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/20174/6/20174.pdf

"While the scale of anti-Jewish violence between February and October in 1917 in no way
matched that of, say, the 1903–6 or 1918–22 pogrom waves, Russian society in 1917 bore witness to a
sharp increase in antisemitism."

Evidence someone sent to Siberia, or hung, for telling an anti-Semitic joke.
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You find dodgy anti-Semitic sources online and copy and paste, without checking. Prove those quotes are correct.
What do you Jews want after all? To be singled out as Jews? Or to be undetected parasites left untouched by your host?
What about all the Jews who are easy to identify by their clothing and customs?
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And for info, there were many Soviet memorials to, and history of, the Holocaust.
Where?
But the Soviets had a habit of mixing the fictive Jewish victims of the Holohoax and the fictive Gentile victims of the Holohoax in their home propaganda. Hence the sudden resurrection of 2.5 million fictive Auschwitz victims in 1990, when the USSR collapsed and the "state" of Israel became the sole heir of the Holocaust myth.
It was the Polish who had the greatest control over the Holocaust narrative. But even the most conspiratorial Holocaust denier, cannot bring themselves to believe the Poles hoaxed the world. Hence they switch attention to the Soviets.