Re: How many documents were fabricated?
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2026 4:48 pm
> Thinks he can post half the quotebombsaway wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2026 3:28 pmR: In 2019, the first English edition of Carlo Mattogno’s massive work on the Einsatzgruppen appeared, showing in minute detail how unreliable and contradictory the reports of the Einsatzgruppen are (Chapters 4&5 of Vol. 1 in Mattogno 2022c).
L: And he’s rather apologetic about the murders that did occur, I might say.
R:Well, he argues that here was no Nazi policy to murder Jews as Jews, but that they were executed as the main “fertile breeding ground of Bolshevism” (Mattogno 2022c, p. 757; see his entire Chapter 2 of Vol. 1).
L: I can’t see a moral or legal difference whether Jews get indiscriminately slaughtered because they are Jews or because I declare them to be the mainstay of Bolshevism. At the end, they were murdered, and that’s what counts.
R:That’s quite right. Moreover, the claim that “the Jews” were the base and backbone of Soviet power is a mere unproven assertion. Mattogno quotes many reports of the Einsatzgruppen making such assertions (Subchapter 3.6. of Vol. 1), and he gives the impression that he takes them at face value. Even if the local populace confirmed to the men of the Einsatzgruppen that Jews were the linchpin of Soviet power, how can anyone be sure that this was indeed true? Maybe the Germans were only hearing from the local populace what that populace thought the Germans wanted to hear? After all, anyone disagreeing with the German scapegoating of the Jews would have been unlikely to walk up to them and set the record straight, would they?
L: There is also quite a difference between some Jews being important to Soviet power and then blaming all Jews for what some of them did.
R: Indeed. In this regard, Mattogno’s book leaves behind a bad taste. It sounds like apologetic sophistry
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That boy ain't right!R:.....The second part of Mattogno’s book on the “Aktion 1005” is
much more rewarding in this regard, as he demonstrates with many examples the
ridiculous nature of eyewitness claims on the alleged cremation of the murdered
victims on huge pyres (Vol. 2 of 2022c). These accounts resemble the technically
impossible nonsense commonly found in witness testimonies about the alleged
outdoor cremations in the various extermination camps.
L: So it’s all bunk?
R: No, I don’t think so. But it is probably safe to say that these accounts are all in-
fused with inventions and exaggerations of war-time propaganda, but still, the core
of it could be true. The question is merely: how big is that core?
The last word about this topic has not yet been spoken, not among revisionists
either, in spite of Mattogno’s massive tome. Ultimately, only thorough and inde-
pendent forensic investigations of any and all mass graves located could settle the
matter, although the more times passes, the more difficult it will be to come to any
conclusions with certainty. But this is unlikely to ever happen.
