The CODOH Revisionist Forum

Eye witness descriptions.

See with kula columns, you have different descriptions of construction, of operation and of dimensions.

With kula himself, you have 2 different descriptions.

For each other eyewitness, you have another description. Some say the columns 'distributed the pellets uniformly in the gas chamber', some say the pellets stayed in the columns, some say the columns were floor to ceiling, some don't. The list goes on.

With the jew soap, the eyewitnesses described a bar of soap stamped R.J.F. made from the fat of jews. This is unvarying.

/shrug

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:50 pm Eye witness descriptions.

See with kula columns, you have different descriptions of construction, of operation and of dimensions.

That is to be expected. A Kula column is far more complicated to describe than a bar of soap.

With kula himself, you have 2 different descriptions.

They are not radically different, and it is normal when someone is asked to describe the same thing, on separate occasions, that their description will vary. Studies of repeated witness interviews prove that.

For each other eyewitness, you have another description. Some say the columns 'distributed the pellets uniformly in the gas chamber', some say the pellets stayed in the columns, some say the columns were floor to ceiling, some don't. The list goes on.

They are minor variations that prove a lack of collusion. They are describing the same thing. Ask your friends to describe the same object and you will see how their descriptions vary.

With the jew soap, the eyewitnesses described a bar of soap stamped R.J.F. made from the fat of jews. This is unvarying.

/shrug

Can you name and quote every witness to seeing Jewish soap, to check your claim?

This work for you.

Nessie, if you worked with a piece of equipment that kept rice or grain from falling on the floor during the bagging process for a year, could you tell me if it uniformly distributed rice in the room or if it didn't?

There is a difference between a small inconsistency and a complete inversion of the purported operation.

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:50 pm Eye witness descriptions.

See with kula columns, you have different descriptions of construction, of operation and of dimensions.

With kula himself, you have 2 different descriptions.

For each other eyewitness, you have another description. Some say the columns 'distributed the pellets uniformly in the gas chamber', some say the pellets stayed in the columns, some say the columns were floor to ceiling, some don't. The list goes on.

With the jew soap, the eyewitnesses described a bar of soap stamped R.J.F. made from the fat of jews. This is unvarying.

/shrug

But w the Jew soap witnesses believed that based on rumors. The probative value here is basically 0, it doesn't meet the barest threshold for direct evidence and it's super weak circumstantial evidence.

bombsaway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:47 pm

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:50 pm Eye witness descriptions.

See with kula columns, you have different descriptions of construction, of operation and of dimensions.

With kula himself, you have 2 different descriptions.

For each other eyewitness, you have another description. Some say the columns 'distributed the pellets uniformly in the gas chamber', some say the pellets stayed in the columns, some say the columns were floor to ceiling, some don't. The list goes on.

With the jew soap, the eyewitnesses described a bar of soap stamped R.J.F. made from the fat of jews. This is unvarying.

/shrug

But w the Jew soap witnesses believed that based on rumors. The probative value here is basically 0, it doesn't meet the barest threshold for direct evidence and it's super weak circumstantial evidence.

That's somehow different than the kula column?

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:53 pm

That's somehow different than the kula column?

Yes, w the Kula columns you're looking at direct testimony, the witnesses themselves claim to have seen them.

W the Jew soap they're not in a position to know, even if they're claiming that it is.

At least with the jew soap it is coherent and consistent.

You again do not address even kula himself doesn't pass that basic rigor.

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:26 pm

This work for you.

No. Names and quotes please.

Nessie, if you worked with a piece of equipment that kept rice or grain from falling on the floor during the bagging process for a year, could you tell me if it uniformly distributed rice in the room or if it didn't?

There is a difference between a small inconsistency and a complete inversion of the purported operation.

I wish revisionists understood better between small inconsistencies and complete inversion. When different witnesses are clearly describing the same thing, such as a pillar inside a gas chamber that Zyklon B is poured into, then any differences are small inconsistencies.

Distributing the pellets uniformly, and keeping them inside the columns so they can be retrieved, are mutually exclusive.

That is not a small inconsistency, it is an inversion of purpose.

Furthermore, the witnesses are inconsistent about this very basic feature of operation.

I don't care how you try to spin this Nessie, it is either misunderstood hearsay and they were never there, or somebody lied. Everybody can't be right about this.

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:22 pm At least with the jew soap it is coherent and consistent.

You again do not address even kula himself doesn't pass that basic rigor.

Yes I did. When someone is asked to repeat a description the same thing, it is unlikely they will use the same words and there are likely to be differences, especially as memory fades. Otherwise, Kula is clearly describing a metal column used to pour Zyklon B into and he is corroborated by other witnesses and a Construction Office document.

Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:39 pm

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:22 pm At least with the jew soap it is coherent and consistent.

You again do not address even kula himself doesn't pass that basic rigor.

Yes I did. When someone is asked to repeat a description the same thing, it is unlikely they will use the same words and there are likely to be differences, especially as memory fades. Otherwise, Kula is clearly describing a metal column used to pour Zyklon B into and he is corroborated by other witnesses and a Construction Office document.

Where, where di you explain why kula completely changed his measurements for the columns?

Where nessie?

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:36 pm Distributing the pellets uniformly, and keeping them inside the columns so they can be retrieved, are mutually exclusive.

That is not a small inconsistency, it is an inversion of purpose.

Furthermore, the witnesses are inconsistent about this very basic feature of operation.

I don't care how you try to spin this Nessie, it is either misunderstood hearsay and they were never there, or somebody lied. Everybody can't be right about this.
....

The uneducated spin about witnesses and consistency is yours. If you bothered to see just how much research has gone into understanding witness evidence, you would be amazed. Here are studies on consistency and repeated questioning of witnesses;

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q= ... i=scholart

You take none of that knowledge into account as you allege lies.

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:40 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:39 pm

Stubble wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:22 pm At least with the jew soap it is coherent and consistent.

You again do not address even kula himself doesn't pass that basic rigor.

Yes I did. When someone is asked to repeat a description the same thing, it is unlikely they will use the same words and there are likely to be differences, especially as memory fades. Otherwise, Kula is clearly describing a metal column used to pour Zyklon B into and he is corroborated by other witnesses and a Construction Office document.

Where, where di you explain why kula completely changed his measurements for the columns?

Where nessie?

Memory, or like him, did you forget!? If you ask someone how tall something is and then ask again sometime later, failing memory is likely to result in a different answer.