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HansHill;

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I actually took "formation" to mean "arrangement" of the pellets, ie how they were arranged within the columns once poured / lowered*, not their physical dimensions.

*this is the exact problem we are faced with, since we don't know** were they even poured or lowered!

**well, we know they weren't poured or lowered at all because this is all a house of cards.

Why does any of that matter? How is it important to the evidence? How does not knowing exactly how the columns worked prove that they did not exist?

nessie:

I am both a trained historian and police officer.

A mass grave is defined as a grave containing multiple human corpses, or the remains of multiple people.

* * * * *

nessie, how many actual mass graves did CSC actually prove actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp?

nessie's answer:

12 - G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54.

[But] I cannot show graves.

Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits and that they exist.

But it DOES NOT prove that those pits contain human remains.

I cannot physically show you mass graves.

nessie, if you can't show us mass graves, then what are these?

Photos of TII, from the 1945 surveys, showing the site after grave robbing activity

Isn't digging into graves the very definition of "grave robbing activity"?

Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:24 pm If you proved, by meticulously going through each camp and ghetto, in the way you go into meticulous detail over the Kula column, that millions of Jews were alive in 1944-5, you would have proved the claims they were mass murdered are false.

Reported for slop.

This is any number of logical fallacies, mainly the Nirvana Fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy

Demanding a meticulously detailed populated list of the resettled Jews, that he himself cannot produce for the very same Jews he is certain that are currently under the soil in the AR camps.

Stop wasting our time with this slop.

Stubble;

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Oh, that's already been covered by PoD succinctly in his 'interview/protocols methodology' post.

Memories were 'refreshed' about 'key details' by 'reminding' witnesses via 'other testimony'.

If that was the case, why did they not describe the column and how it worked, in the same way?

HansHill wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:35 pm

Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:24 pm If you proved, by meticulously going through each camp and ghetto, in the way you go into meticulous detail over the Kula column, that millions of Jews were alive in 1944-5, you would have proved the claims they were mass murdered are false.

Reported for slop.

This is any number of logical fallacies, mainly the Nirvana Fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy

How so? If you accuse me of using a fallacy, please explain yourself. It is a fact that you do go into meticulous detail about what the witnesses said about the Kula column and then you refuse to go into any detail about evidence that could prove there were no mass murders.

Demanding a meticulously detailed populated list of the resettled Jews, that he himself cannot produce for the very same Jews he is certain that are currently under the soil in the AR camps.

Stop wasting our time with this slop.

There are meticulous records of the Jews arrested, transported and at what point they vanish from the records. Bad Arolsen, USHMM, Yad Vashem and national archives are where you will find those records. For example, the details of all the Norwegian, Dutch, Belgian, French, German, Austrian and Italian Jew who was arrested and what camps and ghettos they went to. Specific records of individuals are less common in Eastern Europe, when instead, the rounding up of Jews in each community was recorded.

There are transport records of those sent from ghettos and internment camps all over Europe to the AR camps. That is how various sites have been able to produce timelines of arrivals at each camp. The names of dozens of individuals who worked at those camps, or passed through to work at labour camps are also known.

Then there are records of liberations and displaced persons and how many were Jewish. Countries all over the world hold records of Jews who fled and applied for asylum or citizenship, both during and after the war ended. The Swedes have records of all the Danish Jews they sheltered after they fled in 1943.

There are a ton of sources, that you apply meticulous research to, and prove millions of Jews were still alive in 1944 and liberated after the war, which would destroy the claims of mass murder. The reason why you do not want to apply yourself to that, and you would rather pointlessly discuss Kula Columns ad nauseam, is because you erroneously think the Kula Columns are somehow evidence of no mass gassings, and you know that if you searched for the millions you claimed were not killed, you would have to admit there is no evidence of them alive.

Nessie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2026 3:51 pm There are meticulous records of the Jews arrested, transported and at what point they vanish from the records...
There are a ton of sources, that you apply meticulous research to, and prove millions of Jews were still alive in 1944 and liberated after the war, which would destroy the claims of mass murder.

Logical fallacy.

nessie:

I am both a trained historian and police officer.

A mass grave is defined as a grave containing multiple human corpses, or the remains of multiple people.

* * * * *

nessie, how many actual mass graves did CSC actually prove actually exist within the boundary of the Treblinka II camp?

nessie's answer:

12 - G32, G29, G1, G44, G4, G38, G36, G50, G51, G52, G53, G54.

[But] I cannot show graves [At T II].

Geophysics scientifically and conclusively proves that there are pits and that they exist.

But it DOES NOT prove that those pits contain human remains.

I cannot physically show you mass graves [At T II].

nessie, if you can't show us mass graves at T II, then what are you showing us here:

nessie:

Photos of TII, from the 1945 surveys, showing the site after grave robbing activity

Isn't digging into graves the very definition of "grave robbing activity"?

nessie:

A mass grave is defined as a grave containing multiple human corpses, or the remains of multiple people.

Where is the proof that these bones are actually from humans / people?

Why are there no skulls?

nessie:

A mass grave is defined as a grave containing multiple human corpses, or the remains of multiple people.

nessie:

The 2011 geophysical site survey [at T II], found cremated remains on the surface of the ground, during walk over surveys, which were correctly reburied.

So that means that the hole that Colls dug to rebury the remains she discovered during her fraudulent "investigation" is a grave / mass grave.

So why don't you show us that?

nessie:

I cannot show graves.

I cannot physically show you mass graves.

Liar.

See the additional "huge mass grave" dug by Colls to bury all the fraudulently alleged cremated remains that she found during her "investigation" of Treblinka II here: (Watch from the 38:20 mark to the 41:58 mark and from the 1:08:07 mark to the 1:08:40 mark.)



And why didn't you show us F-16????



Or the "monument grave"?

Wetzelrad;

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Since witnesses claimed gassings took mere minutes, the HCN must have evaporated very quickly.

That assumes the witness estimation of how long gassings took is correct.

No Holocaust authority will conduct any test of this kind because it would vindicate gassing deniers. This is why they haven't tested it in the past (while Zyklon was available) and have no plans to test it in the future.

That claim ignores the fact that there is corroborating evidence from multiple sources to prove gassings took place inside various buildings at A-B, so testing is not considered necessary. It would also be impossible to replicate the exact conditions inside the gas chambers, due to Nazi destruction of evidence.

Wetzelrad again;

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According to these calculations, the real HCN concentration needed for the alleged 5-minute executions would be 13,000 ppm. Even if you dispose of those witnesses and go for 15-minute executions, it would require 3,000 ppm.

Hypothetical calculations based on witness estimations as to how long a gassing took, are being used as a substitute for evidence, as the so-called revisionist have no evidence.

All Rudolf does with his calculations, is prove that witness claims of 5 minute gassings are underestimations.

Bombsaway;

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Likely there wasn't a lack of respect, just a general apathy to honest historical inquiry that drove policy around these sites in the post-war period. Within the USSR I don't believe historians were writing very much about the Holocaust, the textbooks were very vague on the details here, it was enough to say the Nazis had death camps which killed millions and in the repressive environment this wouldn't have been questioned. Jewish centered extermination camps, on the other hand, were inconvenient for authorities so they blatantly neglected this aspect of the history, generalizing the killing.

There were no Soviet historians who wrote about the Holocaust. Stalin never spoke about it. There were no Soviet memorials to it. Instead, the Soviets recorded Nazi mass murder of Poles and other east Europeans. Stalin was not going to promote Jews over the Soviets, as the people who suffered the most under Nazism.

The so-called revisionists are so obsessed about Jews, that they forget camps such as A-B and Majdanek also contained POWs, political prisoners, criminals and others who did not fit the Nazi ideal. Soviet POWs had very high death rates, as did the Nazis they captured. Bombsaway is correct to say that no Soviet citizen would risk correcting or questioning the Soviet narrative and that narrative emphasised Soviet suffering and barely acknowledged the fate of the Jews.

Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2026 6:53 am the so-called revisionist have no evidence.

Liar.

They not only have evidence, they have proof that can stand up in court.

OPENING / FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT OF FACT: It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II, the bodies and burnt remains of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Jews were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive, unsubstantiated allegations to the contrary, the truth is, the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the 100 graves in question that are fraudulently alleged to have been “scientifically proven” to currently exist at these five sites, in which verified human remains have been uncovered / tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology, contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

Note: Using the information presented on this website and applying legal standards used in U.S. courts, the above opening / fundamental statement of fact, which is written as, and can be defined as - a rebuttable presumption - can be - LEGALLY - ACCEPTED - AS - TRUE - in a U.S. court.

...

If the physical evidence for an alleged crime that - HAS TO EXIST - for the crime to have

actually happened - DOES NOT EXIST - then the alleged crime obviously - DID NOT HAPPEN.

Ergo: The orthodox “pure extermination center” story is - A PROVEN, NONSENSICAL BIG-LIE.

https://thisisaboutscience.com/

nessie:

nessie:

I believe the death toll is in the range of 800-900,000.

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As it stands, there have been two main archaeological surveys of TII

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nessie:

There is a ton of archaeological evidence proving mass graves.

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nessie:

The Nazis cremated the majority of the corpses, preventing body counts.

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So first the mentally ill pathologically lying POS alleges that up to 900,000 jews were murdered and buried at Treblinka II, but then alleges that there is only one ton of human remains that "proves" mass graves.

One ton of human remains would be equal to about how many people nessie?

nessie:

Keen has been shown the evidence... which he then choses to reject and deny.

Let's see that "ton" of human remains that I allegedly "deny."

“HUGE MASS GRAVES” are easily identifiable physical entities.

I refuse to believe in the existence of any physical entity that I am not allowed to see.

If you want me to believe, then simply: Show me that which you allege I deny.

https://thisisaboutscience.com/