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Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:29 am
by bombsaway
Stubble wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:22 am Where were the graves Bombsaway? You still banking on them being outside the defined perimeter of the 'extermination area' in the forest some place?

Vanishing jews and vanishing graves...

Now, how 'bout that delousing chamber at Treblinka I, how 'bout it boss?
Whose defined parameters? Not the researchers who state the grave sites were in areas now forested. Methinks you are cherry picking orthodox sources here to bolster your 'impossible' argument. Tres weak

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:37 am
by Stubble
Methinks you are ignoring the plot referred to as 'Treblinka II', and ignoring both the GPR and lidar returns from the Colls study which basically confirmed Krege.

There are other threads for this diversion however, as well as the many other diversions over these past 6 pages.

Perhaps this being a thread about the Treblinka Delousing chamber, we should discuss said Delousing Chamber, referred to in documents obviously referring to Treblinka II and its construction.

While I understand I did mention the self immollating vanishing jews, that was directed specifically at Nick as I want an answer from him.

He states that from Hoffle we know 'they went there', so, I have an interest in hearing where their final disposition was, given the grave spaces are a fucking thimble for the claim.

The population of Seattle wouldn't fit as a liquid.

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:42 am
by bombsaway
Stubble wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:37 am Methinks you are ignoring the plot referred to as 'Treblinka II', and ignoring both the GPR and lidar returns from the Colls study which basically confirmed Krege.

There are other threads for this diversion however, as well as the many other diversions over these past 6 pages.

Perhaps this being a thread about the Treblinka Delousing chamber, we should discuss said Delousing Chamber, referred to in documents obviously referring to Treblinka II and its construction.

While I understand I did mention the self immollating vanishing jews, that was directed specifically at Nick as I want an answer from him.

He states that from Hoffle we know 'they went there', so, I have an interest in hearing where their final disposition was, given the grave spaces are a fucking thimble for the claim.

The population of Seattle wouldn't fit as a liquid.
The Colls study says there is additional grave area under the forested area.

Krege's one Lidar screenshot (which I could only find in low res) apparently shows massive ground disturbance.

re delousing, Nessie owned your asses with this comment on the first page
TI would have a delousing chamber, for the same reason other labour camps did, to help control the spread of disease, as prisoners come and go.

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:45 am
by Stubble
Treblinka I would have had a delousing chamber well before summer 1942...

Not to mention all of the plumbing, the installation of a pump house, construction of barracks etc.

What, you think the documents refer to Treblinka I being expanded, and not the construction of Treblinka II?

With the mass graves, the Colls study and what it found, let's take that to any of the threads you abandoned rather than derail this one. Again, I was asking Nick.

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 8:05 am
by bombsaway
All of your points are based on contingencies that you deem necessary, but you're really only seeing necessity because you want to. You want to believe that a labor camp would from the beginning need to have a delousing chamber if one was built, or that delousing chambers would need all of these other things, but this is just you imagining things. Prove the necessity, don't just declare it to be so.

Eg randomly select 10 labor camps the size of the T I and show they each had a delousing chamber that was built there from the start

As for delousing chambers that didn't have plumbing etc, these exist (eg the delousing chamber at stutthoff) , so your point here means very little. You have weaponized your ignorance of history.

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 9:48 am
by Stubble
What?

You completely misunderstand the point about plumbing, electrical wire, lighting, wallpaper, barracks etc.

This isn't just the delousing chamber.

So far as 'necessity' and my 'needs', that's not something you will find in there. The sun rises and falls every day regardless.

You think Treblinka I put in a delousing chamber and laundry facilities and plumbing in the summer of '42? You actually think that?

And you think I'm 'just desperately grasping at straws' I somehow need?

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:01 am
by bombsaway
So what's the point? They added these things, which means what exactly

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 4:50 pm
by Stubble
I will be more clear, do these documents,

A) Refer to Treblinka I
B) Refer to Treblinka II

If A), where was the work in question being performed on the site, and is there any other documentation referring to any renovations or new construction on the site of Treblinka I. Also, where was the newly constructed Delousing Chamber physically located?

Also, why do these memoranda end up on the desk of Dr. Imfried Eberl?

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:06 pm
by bombsaway
Stubble wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 4:50 pm
If A), where was the work in question being performed on the site, and is there any other documentation referring to any renovations or new construction on the site of Treblinka I. Also, where was the newly constructed Delousing Chamber physically located?
Likely the evidence was lost/destroyed or you missed it or it hasn't been published. You're trying to use this as evidence t2 didn't exist?

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:12 pm
by Stubble
No, I'm pointing to what Prudent Regret has been saying, these documents refer to Treblinka II. It should be obvious, but, apparently it is a 'great mystery' and 'nobody knows'.

Why this particular is a can of worms I don't exactly understand yet, but, I'm sure that will become clear as time passes.

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:17 pm
by bombsaway
I guess this is possible, but totally speculative. Its not an obvious point at all, unless you want it to be.

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:26 pm
by Stubble
Speculative how?

Seriously, why did the memoranda end up on Dr. Imfried Eberl's desk, and how come he referred to it as an expansion of 'Work Camp Treblinka'?

Again, this should be obvious.

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 7:01 pm
by bombsaway
Stubble wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:26 pm Speculative how?

Seriously, why did the memoranda end up on Dr. Imfried Eberl's desk, and how come he referred to it as an expansion of 'Work Camp Treblinka'?

Again, this should be obvious.
Because work camp treblinka (t1) was being expanded and he had administrative involvement

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 7:36 pm
by Stubble
bombsaway wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 7:01 pm
Stubble wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:26 pm Speculative how?

Seriously, why did the memoranda end up on Dr. Imfried Eberl's desk, and how come he referred to it as an expansion of 'Work Camp Treblinka'?

Again, this should be obvious.
Because work camp treblinka (t1) was being expanded and he had administrative involvement
Now that is speculative.

Where is your support for that?

Re: Treblinka Work Camp Delousing Chamber

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 7:52 pm
by bombsaway
Stubble wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 7:36 pm
bombsaway wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 7:01 pm
Stubble wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:26 pm Speculative how?

Seriously, why did the memoranda end up on Dr. Imfried Eberl's desk, and how come he referred to it as an expansion of 'Work Camp Treblinka'?

Again, this should be obvious.
Because work camp treblinka (t1) was being expanded and he had administrative involvement
Now that is speculative.

Where is your support for that?
Ok so which document do you want me to answer to specifically?

I remember now eberl was a t4 employee so he would be involved with t2, that makes sense.

Was the delousing chamber document addressed to him?