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Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 11:56 am
by HansHill
Good news Nessie - Millions of Jews weren't gassed at Auschwitz and AR! This is the best, most pro-semitic news that Jews could hear!
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 3:31 pm
by Cowboy
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:22 am
Cowboy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 6:00 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 7:07 am
If you concentrate hard enough, it will appear that way. Your President is very influenced by Putin.
How much military aid is the US giving to Russia?
How much money does the GOP/DEM take from Russian lobbying?
How many times has the US government condemned anti-Russian sentiment?
How many times has Putin visited the White House this year?
How many times have social media platforms cracked down on anti-Russian sentiment?
How many Russians are heads of media companies, big businesses, talent agencies, etc., in America?
Trump has been directly supplying weapons and aid to Ukraine, which Russia is fighting, to prevent Russia from expanding its sphere of influence towards NATO territory.
The whataboutism is strong with this one.
You miss out how much pressure Trump has put on Ukraine and how he has failed to impose and ensure sanctions on Russia. For you, criticism is to be aimed at Jews, but others get a pass.
Questions answered: 0
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 3:36 pm
by Nessie
Callafangers wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 8:54 am
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 8:17 am
Do you admit that the Holocaust is not a Jewish hoax and it did take place, including the mass gassings and shootings of millions?
The 'Holocaust' tale is not
only a "Jewish hoax". But it is partly so.
Exactly, it involves every country in Europe, that the Nazis occupied, or were aligned to, also admitting to their various responsibility, in a hoax that did not happen. Plus the Americans. A hoax on that scale is impossible and only people who think massive conspiracies are possible, would believe that the Holocaust could be faked.
You try to argue against the tropes you rely on, that without relying on them, you make the hoax you alleged to have been successful, even more impossible to pull off.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 3:36 pm
by Nessie
HansHill wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 11:56 am
Good news Nessie - Millions of Jews weren't gassed at Auschwitz and AR! This is the best, most pro-semitic news that Jews could hear!
So, where they all at the end of 1944?
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 3:40 pm
by Nessie
Cowboy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 3:31 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:22 am
Cowboy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 6:00 pm
How much military aid is the US giving to Russia?
How much money does the GOP/DEM take from Russian lobbying?
How many times has the US government condemned anti-Russian sentiment?
How many times has Putin visited the White House this year?
How many times have social media platforms cracked down on anti-Russian sentiment?
How many Russians are heads of media companies, big businesses, talent agencies, etc., in America?
Trump has been directly supplying weapons and aid to Ukraine, which Russia is fighting, to prevent Russia from expanding its sphere of influence towards NATO territory.
The whataboutism is strong with this one.
You miss out how much pressure Trump has put on Ukraine and how he has failed to impose and ensure sanctions on Russia. For you, criticism is to be aimed at Jews, but others get a pass.
Questions answered: 0
We know the answers to the questions. Trump gives no aid to Russia and he does condemn Putin, but he also acts more like an Allie to him, with his criticism of Ukraine.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:40 pm
by Stubble
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 3:36 pm
HansHill wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 11:56 am
Good news Nessie - Millions of Jews weren't gassed at Auschwitz and AR! This is the best, most pro-semitic news that Jews could hear!
So, where they all at the end of 1944?
jews went where jews are.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:48 pm
by Nazgul
Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:40 pm
jews went where jews are.
Most of Nessies Jews did not exist except on paper. Statistical anomalies.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 8:06 pm
by Stubble
Nazgul wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:48 pm
Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:40 pm
jews went where jews are.
Most of Nessies Jews did not exist except on paper. Statistical anomalies.
Fodder for a different thread.
The pre war population aggregate does not appear to reflect reality.
The projected birth rate is many times higher than any other group on earth at the same time.
During ww1 and the great depression there is a population boom as well.
It is certainly worth interrogating.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2025 8:13 pm
by Nazgul
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:14 am
by Nessie
Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:40 pm
Nessie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 3:36 pm
HansHill wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 11:56 am
Good news Nessie - Millions of Jews weren't gassed at Auschwitz and AR! This is the best, most pro-semitic news that Jews could hear!
So, where they all at the end of 1944?
jews went where jews are.
Which would mean up to 7 million Jews, arrested by the Nazis, in camps and ghettos, in 1944. That would leave a lot of evidence.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:15 am
by Nessie
Nazgul wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:48 pm
Stubble wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:40 pm
jews went where jews are.
Most of Nessies Jews did not exist except on paper. Statistical anomalies.
Every nation in Europe, along with the Nazis, would disagree with you. The Western countries in particular, had detailed records of the Jewish citizens.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:50 am
by Stubble
Why was I was surprised to see this Deborah Lipstadt use the holocaust to argue for open boarders in her book?
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:27 am
by Nazgul
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:15 am
Every nation in Europe, along with the Nazis, would disagree with you. The Western countries in particular, had detailed records of the Jewish citizens.
The Jewish records were created by Jews. How could Western powers have records when the definition of a Jew was not defined. The Reich had to create its own laws to define a Jew. Jews are never counted in a census which shows how little you know. Everything is a guestimate, the almanacs completely unreliable, obvious due to inflated Jewish population statistics from 1900.
In fact the Talmud says they should never be counted.
Rabbi Bachya ben Asher explains that we do not count separate individuals, since we do not want to single them out and bring judgment upon them. An individual may not have enough merit to pass that judgment. However, when counting as a community, even if judgment is brought upon us, there are sure to be enough good deeds in the community to ensure that they pass the judgment and are found worthy of G‑d’s mercy.
A quote
Statista
For most of Europe, records are less accurate. Border fluctuations and the upheaval of the interwar period mean that pre-war records were already poor or non-existent for many regions. The rapid and chaotic nature of the war then meant that deaths could not be accurately recorded at the time, and mass displacement or forced relocation resulted in the deaths of many civilians outside of their homeland, which makes country-specific figures more difficult to find. Early estimates of the war’s fatalities were also taken at face value and formed the basis of many historical works; these were often very inaccurate, but the validity of the source means that the figures continue to be cited today, despite contrary evidence.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:38 am
by Nessie
Nazgul wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:27 am
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:15 am
Every nation in Europe, along with the Nazis, would disagree with you. The Western countries in particular, had detailed records of the Jewish citizens.
The Jewish records were created by Jews. How could Western powers have records when the definition of a Jew was not defined. The Reich had to create its own laws to define a Jew. Jews are never counted in a census which shows how little you know. In fact the Talmud says they should never be counted. Here is one of the reasons.
Rabbi Bachya ben Asher explains that we do not count separate individuals, since we do not want to single them out and bring judgment upon them. An individual may not have enough merit to pass that judgment. However, when counting as a community, even if judgment is brought upon us, there are sure to be enough good deeds in the community to ensure that they pass the judgment and are found worthy of G‑d’s mercy.
A quote
Statista
For most of Europe, records are less accurate. Border fluctuations and the upheaval of the interwar period mean that pre-war records were already poor or non-existent for many regions. The rapid and chaotic nature of the war then meant that deaths could not be accurately recorded at the time, and mass displacement or forced relocation resulted in the deaths of many civilians outside of their homeland, which makes country-specific figures more difficult to find. Early estimates of the war’s fatalities were also taken at face value and formed the basis of many historical works; these were often very inaccurate, but the validity of the source means that the figures continue to be cited today, despite contrary evidence.
Countries aligned to, or occupied by the Nazis, as they enforced the Nuremberg Race Laws, and as they seized homes and families were sent to ghettos and camps, resulted in a greater detailed knowledge of the Jewish population, than ever before. Those records were not created by Jews.
You just cannot get around the fact that population statistics for Jews in Europe, became more detailed during the war and they reveal huge drops in the population. Every European nation accepts that and for most, the part they played in it. It would be in every country in Europe's interest, for there not to have been a Holocaust.
Re: The 'Holocaust' Narrative Shuts Down the Immune System of Nations
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:49 am
by Nazgul
Nessie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:38 am
Those records were not created by Jews.
Korherr said:
https://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/docpage.cfm?docpage_id=2475
The following particulars about the number and development of the Jews in Germany are based on official census data and other Reich statistics, and on scientific calculations and estimates, though for the most part they were generated by the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany and by the religious communities in Vienna and Prague, who worked with censuses, counting-cards for population movement, extrapolation, and calculations and estimates.