New Wiki Site (experimental)

[Archie]

I have set up a new wiki site. It is using MediaWiki software which is the same open source software Wikipedia uses.

https://wiki.codohforum.com/pages/

I do not have any definite plans here. No major project mapped out. I was more thinking, why not? The software is free and there's space on the server. Worst case, nobody does anything with it. Best case, maybe it will be the seed of something really useful. I explained a bit of my thinking here in this earlier post.

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Things like this might have been tried in the past. I know Metapedia has some revisionist wiki content.

Trying to do a full encyclopedia is a ton of work and is not really necessary now that we have Germar's encyclopedia. But I was thinking we could collaborate on a few high quality pages/articles that would synthesize material from the forum and elsewhere to make the info more convenient and accessible.

Content from the forum tends to get buried and is not always convenient to locate. My vision here is that this could be good for making reference pages which could be improved and corrected over time. So often we have the same old things come up over and over and it can be a hassle to try to gather the sources in the moment. And bad faith opponents will bank on that inconvenience. We need to have everything right there, fully sourced.

The wiki software has a few nice features.

• Multiple users can contribute to the articles. This allows for crowdsourcing and can spread out the workload.
• It has an outline of the article allowing you to easily navigate longer articles by section (much better navigation than for a long forum post)
• It has a very good built-in citation system for footnotes.

I have started one example article on the Kola study. I was going to start a thread about the same topic but decided to test it out on the wiki instead.

https://wiki.codohforum.com/pages/index ... Kola_study

[fireofice]

This is a really good idea. It's similar to the holocaust encyclopedia, but one advantage would be that it can be a work in progress by multiple users and can potentially have more topics. This has the potential to be even bigger than the encyclopedia. And if anyone has a criticism or something to add to the wiki, it can be discussed here on the forum.

One criticism is that the index at the bottom of the Kola page just lists the authors, date, and page but not what the source itself is. So what the source actually is, isn't entirely clear to people who are newcomers. There should be somewhere on the page where the full source can be seen.

Another thing is that since the CODOH forum also touches on things outside the holocaust like WW2 and the Third Reich, I think it would make sense to include things like WW2 revisionism as well.

[Archie]

This is a really good idea. It's similar to the holocaust encyclopedia, but one advantage would be that it can be a work in progress by multiple users and can potentially have more topics. This has the potential to be even bigger than the encyclopedia. And if anyone has a criticism or something to add to the wiki, it can be discussed here on the forum.

One criticism is that the index at the bottom of the Kola page just lists the authors, date, and page but not what the source itself is. So what the source actually is, isn't entirely clear to people who are newcomers. There should be somewhere on the page where the full source can be seen.

Another thing is that since the CODOH forum also touches on things outside the holocaust like WW2 and the Third Reich, I think it would make sense to include things like WW2 revisionism as well.

Yeah, I got tired and lazy at the end. It's not completely finished. I just did shorthand references as a placeholder. I want to check the documentation on multiple references because I think there's a special way to handle sources that are used repeatedly (rather than writing out the full source every single time). I mostly used Mattogno's Belzec book and the newer book on the AR camps.

The old forum had an area for WWII etc but it was underutilized. I hope we can get better coverage of those topics in the future.

Germar designed his encyclopedia to be published in physical form and to keep it to a single volume. An advantage of having something online is that there would not be any such constraints although it will be a long time before this grows to any significant size. Unless the AI tools get good enough to automate a lot of it.

[curioussoul]

This is an absolutely wonderful idea and linking to threads or important posts made on this forum (and the archive, of course) makes it a great resource, and hopefully a great boost for the forum.

I'm guessing, over time, we will be able to incorporate much of the information that Germar added to his encyclopedia.

[AreYouSirius]

Not to diminish Germar’s intensive efforts with his encyclopedia (which proudly sits on my bookshelf), but could we theoretically just take and post the whole Holocaust Encyclopedia here as a jumping off point and see where things go regarding people’s ongoing contributions and research?

[Hektor]

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Germar designed his encyclopedia to be published in physical form and to keep it to a single volume. An advantage of having something online is that there would not be any such constraints although it will be a long time before this grows to any significant size. Unless the AI tools get good enough to automate a lot of it.

It should be cited, though. And well, the body of knowledge is a perpetual work in progress as well.

Yes, I think we should have AI tools as well. Including an API bot that can function as automated Holocaust Denier.

[pilgrimofdark]

edit: removing the original content since I was able to edit/create pages.

This is how to shortcut much of the process with LibreOffice.

1. Write and format in LibreOffice
2. Export > MediaWiki
3. Open the txt file
4. Copy/paste code into Wiki
5. Adjust formatting and proofread

LibreOffice exported some code I had to delete, maybe because of how I set up the file in the first place. But nothing major.

And I used the MediaWiki documentation to fix things up and add the images.

[pilgrimofdark]

Sharing this because I didn't know it existed and it's useful.

This page includes a list of all current pages on the Wiki. It'll auto-update as new pages are added. Also added it as a link on the main page.

All Pages

Some of the pages are already getting decent SEO (but the whole site seems to be blacklisted from Google).

[Joe Splink]

I'll suggest what I think is a better idea. The 'holocaust' is a prima facie preposterous (e.g. the door to the Krema 1 'gas chamber' is made of wood and has a large plate glass window) and gratuitously absurd (e.g. "Babies were tossed into the air and used as targets for machine guns", Elie Wiesel's 'Night') hoax, and what needed is a website that makes and documents that case.

The idea is that you're not debating the holocaust, something that did not happen, you're documenting something that did happen and is happening now, the holohoax.

Also, anticipating the argument that the holocaust did happen, but not like it's presented in the media and academia, I think it's a good idea to start with a definition of the holocaust hoax as follows:

The holocaust hoax has three main components -
1. The Nazis planned to exterminate the Jews.
2. The Nazis built gas chambers to exterminate the Jews and disguised them as shower rooms.
3. The Nazis killed six million Jews.
Each component of the hoax is categorically false and completely without evidence. There was no Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews or anyone else, and no evidence of one has ever been found. The gas chambers disguised as shower rooms are pure phantasmagoria, and there is not a shred of physical evidence for them. The number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, and it is well documented that the Nazis aggressively investigated any crime in the camps.

Holohoax101.com is such a website. Why not try to make a better one?